OK...after reading every single thread )BTW alot of useful info in the bowyers bench) in this forum..got the hankering to build a bow to completion this time and not blowing or breaking one like the last 85_+ attempts...was wondering if anyone had a stave or a partially completed blank to trade..sure I could scrounge up some useful trade items...I know I could get a elm board from lowes or walk in the woods and cut some trees but Im unable to walk far distances still after my fusion on my ankle and knee but if I could I would.. and after reading all these threads..I feel I could use some mojo from one of our many talented bowyers...if no has a extra..then no problem..figure I would try before I have to get my next to last surgery within the next 5 weeks on my shoulder done. thanks everyone