Well guys, I saw a deer, almost fell out of the tree shaking so bad, and buried the arrow 6" in front of her chest. but it was my first deer to see while hunting in the dirt, so at least I got an arrow off without scaring her away and even after I shot the arrow she never knew i was there, she bounced two steps away and blew for 5 min before walking off. Way better than skydiving!
O she was 20 yds and I was 20' up in a climbing stand.