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Author Topic: Winterkill in Colorado  (Read 308 times)

Offline mikecc

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Winterkill in Colorado
« on: February 21, 2008, 10:39:00 PM »
My brother has been watching the elk around his home dropping like flies lately do to winterkill here in central Utah. He was helping the DWR with a dead bull yesterday and they said Colorado has it much worse. He reported up to 60% winterkill in some popular units. Can any fellow tradgangers substanciate this as we're thinking of doing a elk hunt this year?

Offline Tree man

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Re: Winterkill in Colorado
« Reply #1 on: February 22, 2008, 12:39:00 AM »
Mike, Snowpack is really deep in the western part of the state and the DOW is predicting big losses in the western and central sections. In my area we have gotten more snowfall and colder temps than usual but still have sufficient warm spells to clear areas. I am seeing plenty of healthy looking animals around here.

Offline Dave2old

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Re: Winterkill in Colorado
« Reply #2 on: February 22, 2008, 09:55:00 AM »
I'm near Durango, in San Juan NF. We have a special problem here due to the fact that a record snow winter is combined with a huge percentage of the elk still up high, where they're not stuck. Five years ago we have massive wildfires, scorching 110 square miles (Missionary Ridge fires). Now, the aspen and other regeneration is elk heaven. There is good chow everywhere for them, and because the snows came late this fall they didn't come down on schedule, around Thanksgiving, but stayed high and scattered. It was the worst rifle seasons on record in this area. So, we have all those elk up high, late ... and here comes a monster winter. At 8,000' where I live, we had 5' on the ground at the worst, immediately followed by a spell of deep cold, way below 0. We're now down to 2'-3' on average and warmer, but it's still snowing and March is often our biggest snow winter here. We're seeing elk in some elk-friendly SW-facing slopes along the roads, but our local little herd of 50 or so has just been standing around in tree wells, going nowhere and nothing really to eat except conifer needles, which are nearly worthless. So we won't truly know the extent of winterkill until the spring thaws. I expect very high mortality among calves, since the snow was over their backs and still belly-deep. Rutter-out bulls will be hard hit also. On the other hand, DOW has been saying we're over-capacity for years, so an adjustment, within reason, may be a good thing. Somewhat offsetting a high winterkill is the very low rifle kill, which is focused mostly on bulls. So there may be fewer elk out there, but lots of nice bulls ... my best guess. Unless you're putting in for a limited draw tag there's no need to decide where you're going just yet ... wait and see.

Offline Tree man

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Re: Winterkill in Colorado
« Reply #3 on: February 22, 2008, 10:07:00 AM »
Dave, Glad to see that you have survived the winter over there thus far.  :D  

Conifer needles are better nutritionally than you might think.-I hope they are getting enough of them.

Offline mikecc

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Re: Winterkill in Colorado
« Reply #4 on: February 22, 2008, 12:09:00 PM »
My brother I mentioned above took advantage of a new law that states if the animal died of natural causes he could keep the rack. He saw a bull bedded in some cliffs for several days that wasn't moving so him and a officer went up to investigate and sure enough he was dead. My brother ended up with a nice 360" whaletail bull. The bull seemed to be young and in good shape, not telling what killed him. That make 20 bulls along about a 20 mile stretch of the wasatch front.

Offline Dave2old

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Re: Winterkill in Colorado
« Reply #5 on: February 22, 2008, 05:00:00 PM »
That's another in this weird complex of problems ... the fires took out most of the conifers, which, unlike the aspen, haven't had any regrowth at all, esp. where the came through and clear-cut standing dead in "salvage" logging operations. It's night and day the regrowth where dead trees were left standing, and now falling, and the moonscapes they stripped clean. And guess where the elk are? I'll have to try a bowl of conifer-needle soup.

Offline kadbow

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Re: Winterkill in Colorado
« Reply #6 on: February 22, 2008, 07:03:00 PM »
I drove from Grand Junction to Glenwood Springs and back today and saw 5 or 6 roadkill elk between Rifle and Grand Junction.  Usually see roadkill deer on that stretch but not many elk.  I think the elk are hanging out lower this winter.
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Offline Richie Nell

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Re: Winterkill in Colorado
« Reply #7 on: February 22, 2008, 07:28:00 PM »
Dave...So you think there may be a "not so good" situation with the herd at Little Yellowstone?
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Re: Winterkill in Colorado
« Reply #8 on: February 22, 2008, 07:29:00 PM »
OR....there may be a good population of older bulls looking for the not so good population of cows creating pretty good September hunting.
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