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Re: Sucker Bow (Pictures added)
« Reply #20 on: March 05, 2012, 03:22:00 PM »
I must admit I've never used heat on a sapling or limb. Just the natural shape of the wood.

This is interesting. Hope to see what you come up with. Keep up the great work.
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Re: Sucker Bow (Pictures added)
« Reply #21 on: March 05, 2012, 04:02:00 PM »
They both have good set back but both also twist some going to straighten just a little to get string to track more towards center, or just left of handle. May or maynot work we will see.

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Re: Sucker Bow (Pictures added)
« Reply #22 on: March 05, 2012, 04:46:00 PM »
I used dry heat and oil on the osage sapling bow I made for the bow trade. It worked well. I would rather control the backset rather than let Mother Nature do it. Sometimes she likes to play tricks!
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Re: Sucker Bow (Pictures added)
« Reply #23 on: March 06, 2012, 07:55:00 AM »
Yep Pat I found that out on a log a friend gave me. Lots of set back got one good stave frome log but with all the set back went down to a 20lb bow before it came to tiller and then the lower limb twisted on me.

Using dry heat (heat gun) and working on fist limb on d bow will have to do other tonight. Only need to work one limb on flat bow. My set up for straightening. Also have form made from design friend brought back from Mo Jam.
 
 

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Re: Sucker Bow (Pictures added)
« Reply #24 on: March 07, 2012, 05:17:00 AM »
You did a real nice job on that pole bow there Pat, I had no idea you could use osage saplings. I guess it goes to show that there's a bow in just about anything if you know how to work it right, and you surely do have a knack for it.

Joe, you fall into that same category. Very nice work as usual.

Looks like you got a good start there Jack, I'll be watching this to see how they turn out.
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Re: Sucker Bow (Pictures added)
« Reply #25 on: March 08, 2012, 09:02:00 AM »
After a little heat and straighening this d bow is tracking a string pretty good. It has a little wiggle but string is laying thru handle. I am happy with it will start tiller this weekend and add rawhide backing.
 

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Re: Sucker Bow (Pictures added)
« Reply #26 on: March 08, 2012, 09:09:00 AM »
You won't know how the string tracks until you actually brace the bow. I make decisions only after first brace unless the stave is totally out of whack.
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Re: Sucker Bow (Pictures added)
« Reply #27 on: March 08, 2012, 09:32:00 AM »
I have only noticed that with one bow so far Pat it was the stave with a lot of natural set back. However I will put a long string on these two early in the tillering process just to be sure, seeings how these are my first sucker bows with sap left on. Makes sense to adjust for twist and what-not as early in the tiller as possible. Most of my bows have been from realitivly straight staves, heating and straightening is new process for me.

By to way Pat do you tend to tiller to brace height before backing? Or just back and tiller?

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Re: Sucker Bow (Pictures added)
« Reply #28 on: March 12, 2012, 09:08:00 AM »
Tillered d-bow to about 4inch brace. Tips sill thick may need a little more bend toward tips. But good start I think. Did not start tiller on flat bow.
 
Both the dbow and flat bow with rawhide backings glued up one with sting other ace wrap to help hold in place
 
Here is what they look like couple days after drying
 

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Re: Sucker Bow (Pictures added)
« Reply #29 on: March 12, 2012, 09:52:00 AM »
can one still straighten with heat once you have the rawhide on?

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Re: Sucker Bow (Pictures added)
« Reply #30 on: March 12, 2012, 11:04:00 AM »
I have not tried heating once rawhide is on. Someone else will have to answer that one. Thats why I try to heat and straighten before backing. These two look a little twisted but a string placed from tips runs thru handle. Of course like Pat said in earlier post I wont know for sure how the string will run until I brace with long string. I hope it wont take much ajustment to limbs to get the string to run either down the left side of handle or down center. I dont worry to much what the limbs do inbetween the handle as long as the string runs within the handle, think of a snakey bow.

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Re: Sucker Bow (Pictures added)
« Reply #31 on: March 19, 2012, 08:59:00 AM »
Well make enough bows and you are going to see this.
 

Had this sucker bow to about a 4inch brace on my tiller tree. It was still a little stiff out toward the outer limb. I had tried to string it but it just took the string I had flat. Weight was still way to much. So I was taking weight off and then tried to string again around 3 to 4 inch brace (long string) and it snaped. Probably my fault pushed the stinging maybe a little to fast didnt have the whole limb bending the way I wanted. Maybe I was counting my chickens to soon, I was already seeing me drawing this little bow on a spring turkey. I think maybe the stave seemed a little dry but that could just be an excuse on my part. I dont have a moister meter. Left these staves in the garage for a year before working them not my norm. Well I will see what happens with the flat bow from the sucker staves it is next.
 

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