Gee thanks everybody. I am in awe of a lot of the bows I see on this great forum and really appreciate any praise from guys with so much experience.Particularly guys that make self bows, 'cause I had a go many moons ago and gave up after three failures with some of our native wood.The timber had the potential but the guy wielding the rasp didnt! jsweka I had a very good mentor over here who steered me hopefully in the right direction with the H.Hill types, although I run one lam up the belly, as I am led to believe H. Hill didnt