Anyone here ever try a takedown like this???

[coaster500]

I ran across these pictures the other day.

He made a scarf cut (looks like the longer the scarf the more strength). He wrapped the handle with rawhide, then wrapped it with cord to hold it in place allowed it to dry overnight. Then drilled and put a removable pin through the handle......  It still was a one piece cut in half but kind of a cool idea and looks like it would work better for different handle designs over just a steel tube???


red oak 54 lb @ 31" 65.5 ntn non bending handle....  He say he uses a pen to push tthe pin out to disasemble....

 
 
 

[coaster500]

 

[PEARL DRUMS]

I wouldnt trust it.

[coaster500]

Why Drums??? What part, where do you see it failing?

Not defending just curious????

I also wondered if the rawhide was wrapped with sinew (maybe with TB3 for moisture)

Wouldn’t it be as strong as a steel sleeve?

I know moisture would be an issue but other than that??

Using rawhide would sure give you more handle shape options…

[PEARL DRUMS]

Im not degrading it either Kip Winger, I just dont like it. I dont believe the rawhide and cord can hold it together tightly and drilling a hole through that already cut in half section weakened it substantially. Rawhide stretches. It may work great no matter what I think about it.

[Black Mockingbird]

I haven't seen fiddler post in a awhile Kip..but maybe send him a pm asking him about it and any cons to it and if that one is still functioning as well as the day he made it. I have no personal experience with it so I can't comment on whether or not it'll work and withstand the abuses of hunting and time. But I do believe fiddler did this more than once so its gotta lead me to believe it does work. And he lives in Alaska and it sure isn't a "dry" climate up there.

[coaster500]

Chris I ran a search on his handle here "fiddler" but nothing came up. Maybe I'll try one of the other sites....

This has really got me curious  

[Black Mockingbird]

He's on paleoplanet Kip..

[AkDan]

Theres an old article in primitive archer with a sleeve system very close to this that I'm sure you could incorperate.  

Basically you'll pin them than wrap with fiberglass epoxy, one side needs a release agent.  the other side is permanent.  You'll also need to make sure your pin doesnt get epoxied in.

You can also do it with sinew and hide glue but realize its not water proof.

Todd video'd a fella doing this very thing on you tube, I'll try and dig the video up....  Same thing as widow is doing though he took it into much more detail than has been posted before.

[AkDan]

here ya go..its Big Jim's vid.  9 part series from start to finish.

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ByxnlRc0ePc&feature=plcp

[coaster500]

Thanks Chris

I've seen Jims video and own a three of his 2pc bows. I just thought this was interesting as a primative solution....

[AkDan]

u can do the same thing with all sinew to keep it primitive, instead of epoxy-glass.  I'd be conserned about moisture though!

[Living_waters]

I have one in my closet, I think I posted the build along here a couple of years ago or so. I didnt use the pin but did use 12oz cloth and epoxy resin instead of rawhide. It works real good, makes a dandy pack bow but handle is a little thick for me.

[John Scifres]

Tim Baker showed that with rawhide a while back somewhere.  May have in TBB or might have been in one of the mags.  I remember it being called "Primitive Takedown Sleeve" or some such.  He said it worked and I pretty much trust him.  I never had the cause to try it though.

[coaster500]

John I couldn't find Tim Bakers example but found a few other references. It looks interesting..... Kind of busy with hunting and work but I'm going to give this a shot....  we'll see how it works out  

Thanks for the tips

[Steve B.]

Definately overlap the limbs like that, vs. butt joining them inside a non-steel sleeve, like I did.  I tried this with an elk antler handle and osage limbs.  Of course the antler is like concrete in compression but in shear its just above wood.
I was going to epoxy one limb in permanent and make the other removable.  I went to all this trouble and it looked real good but when I drew it back like 2" past brace it shattered the antler like it was nothing.

Not that the above sleeve is as brittle but just to point out the concentrated force at the one point with butt joints.