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Offline Minnesota Bill

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NEW SHOP/old garage
« on: June 18, 2013, 10:27:00 PM »
Hey Guys, I decided to up grade my old garage into my new bow making wood shop.  I have been stuck in the furnace room (10 feet by 10 feet) since I started making bows again.  Not much room and mighty inconvenient having to run out to the garage to cut something.  So my single car garage was sacrificed and will by my man-cave.  First thing I did was decided to remove the overhead door and frame that wall in and made a 40 inch swing out door.  Saves on space plus the door was rotting away anyway.
I am still limited to 16 feet by 10 feet but can use all four walls.  I just replaced the 2x4 ceiling joists with 2x6s, will insulate ceiling and walls, run outlets around all the walls and put in a heater.  I trenched over from the house last week and ran a new electric line for a two breaker sub panel as well as a gas line for the heater. The day after running the gas line over I had to have the AC man out to fix the air conditioning.  He had some suggestions on a wall mounted, wall vented heater that he has been putting in fish houses.  He then saw some of my bows and staves in the furnace room and started asking questions.  In the end he asked how much I would charge to make him a bow.  I did not know how to respond on a price but now think maybe the best would be to barter on the price of the furnace.  
Anyway back to my question: lighting for my shop.  Any suggestions?  I saw 4 lamp T8 shop lights that plug into an outlet.  The salesman suggested 4 fixtures but I have never had to do this before.  What do you think?     :dunno:

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Re: NEW SHOP/old garage
« Reply #1 on: June 19, 2013, 06:04:00 AM »
Yes on The barter
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Yes on the T8's I have them.
You might not need 4 fixtures to start with but you will want them at some point. Shadows and bow making don't jive in my book.

Go to a lighting store and ask what bulbs to get. They make many types, you want the ones that mimic daylight. A good, knowledgeable salesmen will know.
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Re: NEW SHOP/old garage
« Reply #2 on: June 19, 2013, 07:58:00 AM »
Bartering is great. Called a,guy for the second time for my overhead door on shop.
Previous time wife was there and he saw some of the bows .
This time he initiated the bartering . Wanted an old looking self bow and primitive arrows for his man cave wall.
No money.

Can't get enough light the T-8's should be good. Even if you start,with 2 leave the outlet to add more.

2 circuits ?  Depends on,what you have in mind for power tools in the future.
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Re: NEW SHOP/old garage
« Reply #3 on: June 19, 2013, 09:54:00 AM »
You can never have too much light.  Bartering for the heater and/or lighting is a great way to get things done!  I would avoid the plug-in lights and just hard-wire them in if you have the ability to do this yourself.  If you put all of your lights on one circuit, having just one more circuit for your power tools is usually not enough (if you use power tools).  If you are having an electrician come in to do any of the work or if you are doing the electrical work yourself, you may want to consider adding a 220V outlet / circuit for the future.  Any of the larger power tools will run more efficiently on 220V (if they are compatible / convertible).  Consider having a dehumidifier in there.  Concrete floors will sweat out the humidity and frost especially in the Spring.  This causes your tools to rust very quickly.  This is another reason to add more electrical circuits than just having two.  Man Caves tend to grow and it is best when doing electrical work to allow and plan for that growth.  The last suggestion I might add is to have operable windows in there.  Nothing beats natural light and fresh air but it is also nice if you ever want to add a window mounted air conditioner.

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Re: NEW SHOP/old garage
« Reply #4 on: June 19, 2013, 11:26:00 AM »
I put 5 two bulb T8 fixtures in my 12 x 15 room and 2 in my 8 x 12 room.. I use the daylight bulbs,  not cool white. I painted the walls and ceiling white for better light reflection.

Offline Minnesota Bill

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Re: NEW SHOP/old garage
« Reply #5 on: June 19, 2013, 07:51:00 PM »
Guys
Thanks for the advise.  I did have 1 line already to the garage from the box in the house.  I planed on using that line for the lighting and the other two circuits for my outlets.  With the size of the shop I will probably be running only 1 power tool at a time with , hopefully in the future, an air filtration system.  I am leaning toward the T8s, 4 4 lamp fixtures, and as suggested, room for more.  In my furnace room I have small t12 fixtures and then use a bench lamp with an adjustable arm, uses up to 100 watt incandescent bulb.  The lamp is useful but the T12s - not really.  Thanks again.
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Re: NEW SHOP/old garage
« Reply #6 on: June 19, 2013, 09:55:00 PM »
Run a heavy 220 line to the shop from your house ckt breaker panel and install a ckt breaker box in the shop. Then you can do anything you need to in the future, Wille Ole Boy:)

For 10 X 16, I would mount 150 watt halogen lamps in all 4 ceiling corners. Would make that shop like daylight if ya only just turned two of em on... Plus they would help heat the shop.

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Re: NEW SHOP/old garage
« Reply #7 on: June 19, 2013, 10:55:00 PM »
When my wife and I bought our house two years ago, I somehow talked her into letting me use our garage for a workshop. It's great to have the space to work. Sounds like its about the same size. 10x18 or so. I wired it for 220 for a table saw on long term loan from a friend. Can't have enough outlets. It looks big when its empty, but it fills up fast when you start putting benches and shelves and tools in it! Just have to consider your work flow when setting it up. I kept the roll up door so I can spread out into the driveway if I need too. I still need to work on lighting. Send pics when you get it done. Im always looking for Ideas for maximizing a small space.

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