Cut to center?

[matt_w]

So I posted a topic last week about my arrows hitting left when shooting point on the target. I had a lot of suggestions and have messed around with different tip weights, changed the brace height, switched arrows, tried everything and now am wondering if I shouldn't just cut the bow to center shot. When building it I didn't cut it to center (it's about 1/8" shy) but I have enough material that I could cut it to center or even a little past center and spray it again. In your guys opinion will this fix the arrows hitting left or at least help it? Shooting point on at 40 it's hitting 2 feet left. Had another guy shoot it and it shot left for him as well.

[Art B]

What type of bow? How's string alignment? Arrows maybe hitting armguard? Grossly under-spined arrows will impact left if shooting RH. Sounds like it something other that needing center to cut..........Art B

[macbow]

Do you have any smaller diameter arrows to try in the right spine range?
In my opinion if you have to,shoot using,your arrow point as a sight then the center cut is probably a must.
Most of the old school guys let the archers  paradox work using correct spine arrows.
You could just add a sight to the bow.

[matt_w]

It's a bow I made myself. I've tried the axis shafts and they still hit left. Arrow don't hit my arm, alignment is fine...I shoot instinctive and it will hit where I aim but I know that if its shooting left of point on then my brain will have to compensate for left and right at distance in addition high and low. Just thinking if I can get it shooting dead on left and right it will help with accuracy in the long run.

[jsweka]

It's got to be something with arrow spine.
I primarily build and shoot Hill style bows that are at least 1/8 out from center.  I also shoot split vision where I see the arrow in my peripheral vision and line up windage (elevation is instinctive).  When I line up for windage, the arrow is straight on with the target.  Paradox and appropriate spine make it go where it's originally pointed.

[George Tsoukalas]

Spine is too stiff. Jawge

[macbow]

Ok if I've got this right. When you shoot instinctive you hit centered left and,right.
When you use the point of the arrow as a reference you hit left.
If that is true then I'd suggest your arrows are spined properly.
Consider a shoot off the fist self bow, to show the other extreme. If you lined up the tip of the arrow on target  you would do well to hit the target at all because the arrow is,sitting at such an angle from string to shelf.

[matt_w]

That is correct, but would I be better off just cutting it to center or even a little past and refinishing the shelf? My last bow shot well point on and I would just like this one to do the same.

[matt_w]

Thanks for all the replies...I'll try a weaker spine before I start in on the bow.
Thanks for everyone's help, any more suggestions would be great as well.

[macbow]

Matt, if this is a glass bow you certainly might as well cut to center.
In that,case choose the arrows you plan to use and remove wood and test shoot till you get what you want.

[matt_w]

That's kind of what I am thinking. It is a glass bow and I should have just cut it to center from the start, but for whatever reason I didn't. I will try leaving the arrows long to see how they shoot for this season and then cut to center this winter after hunting season.

[monterey]

Originally posted by matt_w:
That is correct, but would I be better off just cutting it to center or even a little past and refinishing the shelf? My last bow shot well point on and I would just like this one to do the same.

One advantage to cut to center is that it gives you a wider range of adjustment for any given arrow.  Still, if the spine is waaay off, you need to get to a different spine rating.  

You could get some weaker spined shafts and try them.  Might not be necessary to do any cutting.

[MoeM]

I`d tend to say a deeper cut CAN solve your problem- but it`s more like cutting your arm off after a snake bite than using the antidote...
A well selected, spined arrow will leave straight even if you don`t have any window! As far as I know cut-in windows are a 20th century invention- so how did people hunt and fight with bows the centuries before  

[JamesV]

Arrows are too stiff, deepen the shelf and it will be fine