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Offline monterey

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Thoughts on this riser
« on: July 31, 2014, 09:57:00 PM »
This would be an 18" long bow riser with the grip area set low in order to place the arrow rest at dead center.  Has this been tried or done?  

Any thoughts on the idea?

 
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Re: Thoughts on this riser
« Reply #1 on: July 31, 2014, 10:03:00 PM »
I know some bowyers have one fadeout a little longer than the other, but not nearly that extreme.  Try it and tell us how it works out  ;)
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Re: Thoughts on this riser
« Reply #2 on: August 01, 2014, 05:10:00 AM »
I'm pretty sure this can work, but tillering would probably be more tricky because the limbs are of unequal length and mass.
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Re: Thoughts on this riser
« Reply #3 on: August 01, 2014, 07:34:00 AM »
I've spent a lot of time thinking about tillering, limb lengths, arrow rest at center, hand pressure at center, etc. IMHO, unless you can also put your bow hand pressure at the center of the the bow, arrow rest at center has no advantage. And of course to do that, you need to figure out a way to shoot through your hand or use something akin to a crossbow. I think you're better trying to get the center of pressure from your hand at center if anything, but that's just my opinion...
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Re: Thoughts on this riser
« Reply #4 on: August 01, 2014, 01:31:00 PM »
Mike,
Here is my take.

I would respectfully disagree with Andy that the limb length is significantly different and will cause tillering issues. Since the limb becomes essentially completely stiff almost immediately at the bending of the fades, the top limb will have only the slightest bit more working limb, like maybe 1/4"-1/2". This will give slight positive tiller which is what you want when the bow hand point of pressure is below the center of the bow.

From a mechanical (limb bending) standpoint, the riser design you posted is essentially identical to a riser with equal length fades and a longer grip section with arrow rest still at dead center.

In other words, since small changes in limb thickness cause exponential increases in stiffness, I don't think you see any substantial change in limb deflection between the upper and lower fades. If you do they will be extremely minor, and will also promote a slightly positive tiller.

I think it's totally doable, and will result in a bow with essentialy the same limb action as one with symmetrical fades.

I think Dave is on the right track in saying that there may not be a practical advantage to the design, but I think it will look sweet, and I don;t think it will shoot any worse than a standard symmetrical riser.

The main reason I would shy away from it is this:
If the bow has more mass above the point of contact with the bow hand, then the bow will be less stable and the top limb will tend to tip side to side more. A bow which has mass evenly balanced above and below th epoint of contact with the bow hand will tend to be more stable, tip less side to side, and I believe will result in a more stable and accurate shooting platform.

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Re: Thoughts on this riser
« Reply #5 on: August 01, 2014, 09:13:00 PM »
Are there any mainstream bow builders putting the rest in the center of their bows? If not there might be a reason.
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Re: Thoughts on this riser
« Reply #6 on: August 01, 2014, 09:35:00 PM »
That is my exact riser with one exception...my arrow rest is one inch above center. That makes the deepest part of my grip at the very center of my bow.

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Re: Thoughts on this riser
« Reply #7 on: August 02, 2014, 12:02:00 AM »
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