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Offline Full Draw Too

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planer?
« on: December 29, 2014, 08:54:00 AM »
Good Morning bowyer world, Ok, just wondering if a planer is a must in the shop? buying some equipment and wondering if this is a necessity? riser work etc..?


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Re: planer?
« Reply #1 on: December 29, 2014, 09:22:00 AM »
Nope, not a necessity.  I've been making bows of all kinds for 16 years and just got a planer a couple months ago.

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Re: planer?
« Reply #2 on: December 29, 2014, 10:41:00 AM »
My planer is the most important and useful tool in my shop. If you are building glass bows a planer will pay for it's self many times over.  

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Re: planer?
« Reply #3 on: December 29, 2014, 10:59:00 AM »
James,
Are you talking about a planer or a jointer?
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Re: planer?
« Reply #4 on: December 29, 2014, 11:08:00 AM »
Have a planer and hardly ever use it.

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Re: planer?
« Reply #5 on: December 29, 2014, 11:23:00 AM »
for me, a jointer and  a thickness sander.

a jointer to square things up nicely- a sander for everything else.
if one was going to do some joinery- cabinets etc- then a planer would be an asset.
just my .02c

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« Reply #6 on: December 29, 2014, 11:47:00 AM »
I have a planer new in the box and havent opened it since I bought it a couple of years ago.
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Re: planer?
« Reply #7 on: December 29, 2014, 01:08:00 PM »
nice for rough sawn stock
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« Reply #8 on: December 29, 2014, 06:13:00 PM »
I don't think I could live without my combination jointer-planer.
 http://www.hammerusa.com/us-us/products/jointer–planers/jointer-planer-a3-31--310-mm.html
This is not the one I have, but Hammer makes good machines. There are many other makers. Bue--.

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« Reply #9 on: December 29, 2014, 07:23:00 PM »
A drum sander can do anything a plainer can plus a lot more, that would be my vote. I am not sure what I did before my grizzly baby drum sander or why I did not get it earlier!
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Re: planer?
« Reply #10 on: December 29, 2014, 07:26:00 PM »
It's very useful for bow building and a must for most other wood working.
I used to have a 4 inch jointer and I wish I could find another one for planning bamboo.
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Re: planer?
« Reply #11 on: December 30, 2014, 08:40:00 AM »
James is talking about a thickness planer, Norbert. He uses it for tapering core lams instead of a thickness sander. After he showed me his method, I use one for the same purpose since it was a much cheaper way to go for me and works great. I got the thickness planer from Harbor Freight for about $200 with a coupon. I also have a grizzly jointer that I use for other things.
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Re: planer?
« Reply #12 on: December 30, 2014, 11:22:00 AM »
I am fortunate to have both a jointer and a planer and I use both for bow building.  But I use a lot of rough-cut lumber not just for bow building but for boat building as well. I should also mention that I do not make very many bows in a year either.  I currently do not have a drum sander or an edge sander even though both are on my tool wish list.  

I use a sled for my planer for lams and it does work quite well with some experience.  However, a drum sander is truly best suited for tapering lams and for producing tight-tolerance lams.  If this is your intended primary purpose, by all means, get a drum sander.  

If you plan to do other woodworking projects (especially when using rough-sawn) lumber, then the planer is by far the tool to get first. By the way, you can get a decent portable planer for less money than a portable drum sander.  

IMO: Because a drum sander of this size is not used for too many other woodworking projects, it just didn't pay for me to get one yet. Personally I will buy the edge sander before the drum sander accordingly.

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Re: planer?
« Reply #13 on: December 30, 2014, 11:26:00 AM »
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Originally posted by rmorris:
A drum sander can do anything a plainer can plus a lot more, that would be my vote. I am not sure what I did before my grizzly baby drum sander or why I did not get it earlier!
Roy is correct. Kinda. Both machines reduce the thickness parallel to the bottom the surface. For bow making, I think a thickness sander is way more useful. It doesn't care if there is fiberglass, gnarly grain, glue, etc. It gives you more control on height.

But, a thickness sander is a slow and painful way to bring rough stock into dimension in any quantity. I use my planer all the time, but I admit it is almost never for bow making. Really more of a furniture/cabinet thing.

So if you're planning to use your shop for woodworking in general, I think a planer might be worth considering. But if you're looking to do risers and laminated bows, you may think about a thickness sander first. In an ideal world, you just buy both.
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« Reply #14 on: December 30, 2014, 11:30:00 AM »
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Originally posted by eflanders:
IMO: Because a drum sander of this size is not used for too many other woodworking projects, it just didn't pay for me to get one yet. Personally I will buy the edge sander before the drum sander accordingly.
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Currently building an edge sander. It really is crazy useful and I really, really want one. Have had trouble buying a small drum sander after growing up in a cabinet shop with 36" wide-belt sanders. And I don't have the space or money for one of those.
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Re: planer?
« Reply #15 on: December 30, 2014, 05:11:00 PM »
Why is an edge sander a must-have? I've made bunches of bows of all sorts and never used an edge sander once.

I think it would be a nice addition to my shop and plan to get one someday... it'll probably be my next major tool purchase... but for me it's more a wanna-have than a must-have.

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« Reply #16 on: December 30, 2014, 05:43:00 PM »
You make a good point. While I grew up having one at my disposal, I don't have one yet in my current shop. I've survived and even made a few bows that seemed to turn out ok.

So, I revise my previous post to "an edge sander is crazy useful and I really, really want one."

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Re: planer?
« Reply #17 on: December 30, 2014, 05:51:00 PM »
Cause you haint a real bowyer till ya have one.  :)  And once you get one, you will love it.

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Re: planer?
« Reply #18 on: December 30, 2014, 07:13:00 PM »
Thanks all of you for your input on the planer. with all the experience you guys have and input I truly do appreciate EVERYONE'S input. I can't wait til the day comes that I can pass on good sound advice to another who is just staring out like I am..I would love to shake the hands of all you guys someday and say thank you....I truly am a Traditional bow nut and now buy making my own bow with everyone's input is very special to me...Thanks again guys!


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