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Offline Kopper1013

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1,632 1/8" holes later I could use some input....
« on: January 15, 2015, 03:21:00 PM »
Hey guys, a little while ago I had a post about getting your ideas out of you head. A few of you mentioned using uni weft to lay out and trace so I made this peg board. It's 4'x1' the squares are on 1/2" centers and each corner of square is an 1/8" hole I'm using 1/8" tig filler rod as my pegs. My plan is to trace out my outline then I thought I'd use plexie glass to trace and cut out for template. Anyone use plexie glass as a template for a router before? Well here's 4 profiles I've come up with and wonder which you guys think will be the most successful bow? The one I end up building will lay up like this

.04 glass
.03 parallel lam
.09 w/ .002 tapper
.07 parallel
.09 w/ .002 tapper
.03 parallel
.05 glass

Total stack .400
Total tapper .004
Thinking of tip wedges and a power lam to.
Also note I'm trying to workin a forward riser

A:

B:

C:

D:
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Re: 1,632 1/8" holes later I could use some input....
« Reply #1 on: January 15, 2015, 06:43:00 PM »
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They don't look much different to me.  Plus other things such as how the with of the limbs taper will have a big effect too.  What do you consider "successful"?
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Re: 1,632 1/8" holes later I could use some input....
« Reply #2 on: January 15, 2015, 07:37:00 PM »
Success to me would be a bow to take on my first elk hunt in September, I don't have a ton of money to probably build another before then. But something stable that shoots an arrow somewhat hard. I want the forward rise cause I've read a lot lately about them being more forgiving for the average shooter.
I'm planing on being 64" NTN 1-1/2" at fades and either a 1/2" or 3/8" at nocks and cut an 1/8" past center
Right now I like C and D.
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Re: 1,632 1/8" holes later I could use some input....
« Reply #3 on: January 15, 2015, 07:58:00 PM »
I like B the best, because it has the smoothest curve to my eye. Don't like the sharp curve at the handle of A or the long flat areas, midlife of C and D. However I know nothing about building glass bows. Make sure you keep us posted.
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Re: 1,632 1/8" holes later I could use some input....
« Reply #4 on: January 15, 2015, 08:13:00 PM »
i know you want to build your own bow and hunt with it, but if you are only gonna have one shot at it, why not go with a recognized design, and a stack that will put you on the money first time- just seems like when you are developing a bow design, it can take a lot of time and money. with so many superb bowyers on this site- i am sure there is someone who could give you a proven design and stack recipe- just my thoughts   :)

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Re: 1,632 1/8" holes later I could use some input....
« Reply #5 on: January 15, 2015, 10:56:00 PM »
x2 on fujimo.  Maybe start with a Bingham's design, or one of Kenny's?  I think one of those would be a lot simpler and cheaper to build and know that you have a good shooter when you're done.
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Re: 1,632 1/8" holes later I could use some input....
« Reply #6 on: January 15, 2015, 11:40:00 PM »
then, as you get extra time and funds, work on the bow in your heart- no pressure...good luck mate whichever way you go
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Re: 1,632 1/8" holes later I could use some input....
« Reply #7 on: January 15, 2015, 11:43:00 PM »
I agree with razorback, profile B is the best.

The "build a proven design" boys have a lot of good points.   But I agree doing your own thing has a lot of appeal -- it's what I do.

What draw weight are you looking for?  I always build a cheap prototype, then use the Lam Stack Calculator to zero in on the weight I really want.
You could make a cheap prototype for maybe $40, without all the tapered stuff.  Just use a tablesaw to cut two 1/8" slices of 1.5" wide pine for lams to keep the glass apart, another piece of 1.5" pine for the riser, and get two $9 .030 black glass lams from Binghams.  Glue that up and taper out to the nocks.  Then put a bastard string on and get an accurate draw weight.  From there use the Lam Stack Calculator to derive a new total stack.  Decide how you want to divvy the new stack up - tapers, parallels, glass, and build the finished bow.
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Re: 1,632 1/8" holes later I could use some input....
« Reply #8 on: January 16, 2015, 12:15:00 AM »
that is sound advice- from ken!
he builds some funky bows!

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Re: 1,632 1/8" holes later I could use some input....
« Reply #9 on: January 16, 2015, 08:30:00 AM »
Thanks guys!! I agree with everything you all have said and while it might be wise to take the path of more guaranteed positive results, I look at it as, I always have other bows of it fails just wanted to try my own thing if it works great if not oh we'll try again when the funds are there hahaha I know a little crazy.

Have any of you tried plexie glass as a router template?
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Re: 1,632 1/8" holes later I could use some input....
« Reply #10 on: January 16, 2015, 10:05:00 AM »


Or how bout this one rise would end in the flats power lam would continue just into the beginning curve of the limb...
Primitive archery gives yourself the maximum challenge while giving the animal the maximum chance to escape- G. Fred Asbell

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Re: 1,632 1/8" holes later I could use some input....
« Reply #11 on: January 16, 2015, 05:33:00 PM »
X3 on what fujimo said!
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Re: 1,632 1/8" holes later I could use some input....
« Reply #12 on: January 16, 2015, 09:16:00 PM »
If you have your heart set on your own design - I agree that "B" looks the best.
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Re: 1,632 1/8" holes later I could use some input....
« Reply #13 on: January 17, 2015, 12:00:00 AM »
kudos man!! thats a lot of work for the peg board- good job!

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