No, it was lams. Yeah, when I get ready for my next Silvertip, I'll revisit the Juniper idea. As it turns out, I think the tulipwood veneers look awesome with the bloodwood, probably much better than juniper. I told Dave the combination I wanted- red riser with red limbs that showed a lot of figuring. He showed me a few pieces of tulipwood he had and said he thought that was just what I was looking for (although it doesn't have the knots that juniper has, it has yellow, red, and black which is beautiful). Just proved to me that Dave listens to what you want and then makes suggestions that, in the end, fit perfect for me, including the FF option. It definitely is a piece of art and the Thunderhorn knob quiver is red and tan and matches perfectly. I couldn't resist the grizzly etching on the quiver- being that it is a Silvertip, although the elk etching was hard to pass on. Guess there's always another quiver out there for me to buy too.