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Define forward handle?
« on: March 11, 2018, 02:47:00 PM »
Many use this term(myself included). But I haven’t seen an actual defenition as to what constitutes a forward handle.

My assumption is this: If the throat of the grip is forward of the tips of the fades, a bow would be considered forward handle.

The bow I’m finishing up is the first off a redesigned form. The throat is almost dead even with the riser fades. However, the bow has a powerlam and the throat is about 1/2” ahead of the tips of the pl.

Would you consider this a forward handle?  It doesn’t really matter to me what it’s called. I like the bow and how it handles. I just don’t like using terms to improperly describe something.
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Re: Define forward handle?
« Reply #1 on: March 11, 2018, 03:07:00 PM »
Yep, mine might be a somewhat forward handle . Be good to know for sure!  :)
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Re: Define forward handle?
« Reply #2 on: March 12, 2018, 07:23:00 AM »
If the thickness of the handle is on the back side of the centerline of the limbs, you have a forward handle bow.

If your fades fade into the back of the limb, not the belly, you have a forward handle bow
   

   
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Re: Define forward handle?
« Reply #3 on: March 12, 2018, 08:45:00 AM »
That makes sense but brings a question in my mind. Isn't there a line of thinking that the longer the string is in contact with the arrow (during the shot) the more speed/energy it gathers? So, moving the handle forward of the center line would lessen the contact time, therefore making the bow less efficient?
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Re: Define forward handle?
« Reply #4 on: March 12, 2018, 09:02:00 AM »
In the past I thought the handle & the fades had to be forward of the limbs but not sure what defines it.
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Re: Define forward handle?
« Reply #5 on: March 12, 2018, 11:05:00 AM »
I dunno skeaterbait; the Ottoman Turks built some 800+yard ranging forward handle bows.  That seems pretty efficient to me.

Yellowwood.  I don't see any confusion.  the handle is on the back side of the line of the limbs on that bow in your picture, certainly.
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Re: Define forward handle?
« Reply #6 on: March 12, 2018, 11:12:00 AM »
Can't argue with the stats Ken.   :thumbsup:
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Re: Define forward handle?
« Reply #7 on: March 12, 2018, 12:29:00 PM »
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Originally posted by skeaterbait:
That makes sense but brings a question in my mind. Isn't there a line of thinking that the longer the string is in contact with the arrow (during the shot) the more speed/energy it gathers? So, moving the handle forward of the center line would lessen the contact time, therefore making the bow less efficient?
I know what you're saying for sure.

Having a forward handle doesn't necessarily mean a higher brace height than normal though....depends on the design of the bow.
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Re: Define forward handle?
« Reply #8 on: March 12, 2018, 07:22:00 PM »
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Re: Define forward handle?
« Reply #9 on: March 12, 2018, 08:09:00 PM »
Thanks for the replies fellas.

Ken
I understand your defenition, but think it mostly relates to straight limbed bows. How do you discern where the centerline of the limbs go thru a riser on a highly contoured d/r or recurve riser?  Also, most glass bows have the fades in the center of the limbs.

That’s why I believe you have to use the fade tips or a nonworking limb area as a point reference for a defenition that would cover all bow types.
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