doubble bull blind question?

[zato ni]

I just recieved my new doubble bull tent blind and haven't opend he box ,the reason is after ordering one from cabales I saw that 3 rivers offers one thats 4 " taller . my question is this , you guy's that have one I shoot a great northern longbow 64" I got the tripod stool with it because the ad said that it put you at the right height to shoot out the window. how does it work for you can you get away with canting the bow a little extra is 5'7" tall enough. it would cost shipping back to cabales plus the recurve blind is 40 dollors more with added shipping fpr the new blind is it worth it?

[Guru]

Make sure the recurve model is available...I'm almost certain it's not yet in the Dark Horse( talked to the guys at DB yesterday)...if that's the blind your talking about....

With a 64" bow you will be better off with a recurve model......look for a matrix recurve if the dark Horse isn't available

[Orion]

You can shoot a 64-inch bow out of the shorter blind, but it will limit some of the angles at which you can shoot.  With a bow that long, hitting the side walls is just as much of a concern as hitting the ceiling so it's necessary to position yourself well back from the windows, thus reducing the shooting angles some.  With a taller blind, you can cant the bow a little less, because you won't be as worried about hitting the ceiling, which will let you move around a little more.  The difference isn't great, but there is a difference.

[zato ni]

thats what I was afraid of my hindsite is always right on I should of done more research. the night I ordered the blind I had made up mind on the cabales 200 dollar model and hung up the phone and talked the wife into the doubble bull thinking that i was probbly onl going to buy 1 I wanted to make sure it was a good one.

[Shawn Leonard]

Do a seach on line, I have seen several places that have free shipping and also the Matrix recurve model on sale where ya pay what ya would for the regular Matrix. Shawn

[bluegrassbowhunter]

Better go with the recurve model.I've tried to shoot out of several different makes of blinds by different manufactures & some were even taller than the DB recurve model but didn't have the limb clearance the DB has..I've heard alot of conversations on portable ground blinds & there heigths,it doesn't matter if the blind has a roof that is 8 foot tall if the distance from the window to the roof is the right distance,this is were DB has it figures out..JMO

[zato ni]

thanks you guys i'll look around online

[LKH]

I have the tall one.  It's worth it.  I like to be able to stand up and stretch from time to time and at 5'10" its perfect.  Remember, sometimes the blind isn't on level ground and the extra height can help.  

By the way.  I hate sitting in the blind.  Of course I don't like trees much more.

[Dave Bulla]

I've got the regular matrix but 5ft 7 in doesn't sound right unless they are talking about the wall hight.  The center of the roof is considerably higher.  To give you an idea, I am about six one or six two in my bare feet and with hunting boots with a good heel I can stand upright in mine if I spread my feet just a tad beyond shoulder width.  I also use a 66" longbow with no problems out of it.  

As stated, the key seems to be getting your seat set to the proper hight.  I use a nifftyseat and love it.

By the way, if you live near a Cabellas, check their bargain cave.  The one near me has had anywhere from 5 to 20 double bull blinds every time I've been in there since Christmas.  Price for a Matrix is $289 as opposed to the regular $399.  Throw in one of their cash cards that give you an extra $50 off any purchase between $200 and $299 and you can save even more.  Actually, it will be over $300 after taxes so that would be $75 dollars off so you are talking almost half price!

[Stone Knife]

I have the regular model matrix 360 and have no trouble shooting my 64" Howard Hill bow in it. Find out if the extra height is just in the center or if the walls are taller, IMHO if the wall height is not higher the extra center height wont amount to much because you have to cant your bow any ways this will bring you tip closer to the edge.

[foxbo]

Send it back and get the recurve model. Also make sure it has the black interior and spend the extra bucks for the carbon poles. They make a big difference in the weight of the blind. You'll be glad you spent the extra money each time you haul it into the woods.

[ethan]

zato, I can't speak for the shorter model.  But I have the T-5 and my bow is basically the same as yours and I can shoot, and change shot angles and whatever and don't have any problems at all.

[peter c iacavazzi]

Regardless of what size DB you get make sure you allow yourself about 2-3 hours to set it up. At least thats how long it took me and 2 other "Montana" guys to set up Guru's DB a few years back. Bad news is we broke 2 poles trying to get it up...Good news is DB bull did replace em. I'm told (by Guru) that it is actually possible to set one up in a few minutes (Ha!) but I don't believe everything Guru says...

[Oliverstacy]

The standard model is 67" (5 foot 7") tall and the “Recurve” is 74" tall, this is the center of the blind height.  I’m 6’ tall and I have 2” of clearance when I stand up in mine. I had to have Cabela's special order mine since they don't stock the "Recurve" model.  They were going to charge me $469 plus shipping but talked them down to the $439 everyone else was charging.  Remember when you special order something you should get ripped off just because.

I just checked 3 Rivers and they have the Matrix "Recurve" for $399 on sale…they also state they will not have the Dark Horse “Recurve” model in time for turkey season.  Which kind of sucks for them I’m assuming.  

link is:
  http://www.3riversarchery.com/Product.asp?c=60&s=177&p=0&i=7770  

But if your like me and had a bunch of gift card money and wanted to use it on a blind...that was the only reasonable option I had at the time.  

I cost me $50 out of pocket to get the blind delivered.  Granted they wanted tax and shipping because they have a store in my state.

I love my blind and can’t wait to get it out this spring for long beards.  I’m also going to hunt a lot out of it this fall for deer.

Just though about something else…Sportsman’s Warehouse has them on sale also if you can find them in the store.  I just bought a T2 blind (mainly for gun hunting) that was marked down from $299 to $219, the T5’s were $269 and the Matrix were $329 (I think, I’m positive on the price of the T2’s and T5’s).  Might be worth checking out.

For what it’s worth my friends Matrix was large enough for me to use it with my 62” longbow.

Here's a picture of my Recurve model...too much snow outside so I set it up inside...kid in a candy store!!
 


Josh

[DeerSpotter]

I have shot a 64 in. John McDonald Longbow (Big River) out of a T 5, it was the normal height or the same height as the matrix, I now have The Dark Horse, and I think the dark horse is about 2 in. larger than the normal T 5, it just seems that way to me, I have taken a 62 in. Bear Montana, and have drawn with it.  I had no problems but I did have to cant, if I turned to the side windows.  I have purchased a Kodiak Magnum, for my blind bow, because I don't use the blind that often.  The only reason I purchased it was because I got it at brand-new for $249.00 I like the pattern in the dark horse, simply because it looks like the same pattern in colors of the safari suit.

The recurved may be a little bit tougher to branch in, but not impossible, it may stand out a little bit more, but it just depends on your terrain.  I have gotten away from hunting and blinds, this one is just for those odd times.

I do have a 62 in. "Whip" on its way, and I've been told that there is no problem with the matrix or the Dark Horse blind as far as shooting out of them with the 62 image.

Take yours out and give it a try, I was just a sportsman's here and they do have those on sale, at pretty good prices, but the place I work at, no way, they're still at regular prices, and they will set there, I have told some people to go to sportsman's they're cheaper, and I'm all for saving an individual money, I don't like selling something just sell it.  I want to meet the person's need.

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[Oliverstacy]

T5's and standard Matrix/Dark Horse blinds have the same size center height...67".  Looking right at the DB catalog.

The T2 is 64" tall, but it will maily be my gun hunting blind.

I have way to many places on my dad's farm to not give it a try.  We farm 3500 acres, 1500 of this is corn and there are a lot of draws and water ways that deer travel...they don't always have a tree to get a stand in.

Should be an interesting spring turkey season and fall deer hunting.

Josh

[bayoulongbowman]

Watch the DVD on how to set up ....with little practice , you can do it in seconds , but with out watching LOL you may be awhile:)  

[DeerSpotter]

I didn't do my test looking at a catalog, they were side-by-side on a concrete floor, and the dark house appears to be one half to 2 in. taller, also the viewing windows in the middle of the two shooting windows are 1 1/2" to 2" larger than on the T 5, the comparisons I did were in the store on us level concrete floor.

Not scientific, and they could vary from blind  to blind, because Primo's now owns the company, also the material used on covering on the shooting holes on the T 5 half of the blind, is solid black, on the original T 5, it was camouflaged.  That's the only downside I see do that blind other than that it has 180 matrix, and the rest is T 5 style.

Pastor Carl