Grips on 50’s style recurves

[RedShaft]

I have shot traditional D style longbows with the 2x4 handles.( ) and Bears, and bob Lee and widows.
I have been looking into what most call 50’s types recurves. There handles look to be a between standard longbow and more modern type deep cut recurve grips.

Now what I’m wondering is what are the names to these different types grips?

And are those on the 50’s style recurve as consistent and east to shoot as say what the grip is on a black widow recurve?(pch,pma,psa)
Do you use more heal to shoot these? Or what is the proper way to grip them and hand placement for consistency? Thanks 

[mec lineman]

I had a Kota Killum that was a great bow. Had a very nice grip and he bow pointed well. I also like a great Northern super ghost. The one that I haven't tried yet that is on my list is a Tolke Chinook. I shot a Java Man Assaryian at etar that was very,very nice. These grips are in between a full blown recurve grip and a very mild locator style.

[RedShaft]

Was you able to shoot these as well as the deeper cut grips of the 60’s or later type recurve grip designs? These later bow grips tended to be more accurate/ consistent for most shooters.
Did you set your hand down on these more heal in your grip or was it more on the thump pad? Trying to get a idea without actually having my hands on one.

[Keefer]

This might help you.....http://www.buildyourownbow.com/five-common-styles-of-longbow-grips/   

[mec lineman]

Redshaft, i agree with you. The bows with deeper throats can be very accurate. I do like the grips on most 50 s style recurves, i think they handle fast and natural. The Chinook seems to have a slightly deeper throat. Hope i haven't confused you.

[RedShaft]

Thanks guys! That really helped. Looking at hose the sculpted grip is the one I’m talking about.

No not at all. That is what I have read. Longbow like but with the benefits of the recurve.
I was looking in classic bear, chinook, river runner, kahonnah Kurve

[Steelhead]

I have been shooting 50s style curves for a long time.I have also owned many widows and other recurves with higher style grips.I have also owned widows and other more 60s style recurves with lower style grips more like a 50s style grip.I had those grips custom made.I do like a lower grip on all my bows.

Most 50s style curves have a low grip and locator style.The grips are typically smallish.

I lay my hand down on those grips with an even push through the grip area (even pressure).The wrist is typically even and not broken up slightly like a higher wrist where the pressure is mostly in the web of thumb and index finger or down like a straight hill style grip.Kinda like your wrist and hand would be if throwing a straight jab.Its a strong position and stable with that low locator grip.Prevents torque for me.

That Toelke could probably be had with a higher grip if you were so inclined.More riser to work with for the bowyer with the overlay work as well on belly side.The limbs are slightly wider as well which may allow more mass side to side.

I like narrow,deep cored,streamlined and full working limbs on those like the originals had.Very classy timeless look.

I currantly shoot a 2 PC. Fox Breed that's 62 inches.Awesome bow for me.

I had a few 60" Toelkes that were super nice and that River Runner your looking at is also superb.My River Runner was 62".

[RedShaft]

Steelhead,
Thank you for the explanation.
 From what I have found from shooting “other” bows the wrist slightly out at a 45 deg angle with your hand set at your description,  Pressure basically at the base of the thumb is the most stable and torque free grip you can achieve as it is on bone and not on fleshy web of the hand.
Do these bows tend to be smoother at the same length compared to a 3pc or larger riser bow due to the longer limb length?

[Tim Finley]

 I like a locator grip the best and I think I shoot them better . No torque and if you notice all the compound shooters have went to a locator grip for more accuracy .
   50s bows are the most fun to hunt with and carry. Take a look at the picture of Fred Bear crossing the little Delta on their home made tree bridge, very cool.

[bunyan]

When I was looking for my first 50s style recurve I was coming from shooting standard pistol grips like you find on a bear Kodiak magnum. I tried a bunch of bikes but it wasn't until I picked up a fox breed that I found one I connected with. Mine has the palm swell or indicator grip or whatever you want to call it. It isn't the same as a pistol grip but it is more ergonomic than a straight broom handle grip and made for a smooth transition to a 50s style recurve.

[RedShaft]

That picture is a classic! You can almost put yourself there.

The Fox breed was one I was looking into also. The palm swell grip do feel great!
Main one I’m really looking at is the chinook. The grips looks nice.

[Steelhead]

I would say that most 50s style curves are gonna give you more working limb than most 3 piece recurves and allow it to fit an archer with a (longer draw) without stacking and more comfort.Not sure if it matters if you draw 28 inches or less on most 50s style designs or 3 PC designs of the same length.

On 50s style its gonna depend on riser length.Some do have longer risers.I never had a problem with 60 or 62 inch 50s style recurves personally and used to draw 30 inches.I draw a little over 29 inches now.Changed my form and got older.My Fox Breed does have a longer riser in the 62 inch length.But it has very long graceful fadeout work.No problem.Very smooth,very shootable.

Some of the 3 PC bows with only 13 or 15 inch risers may feel similar as far as working limb to a 50s style recurve.