String slap with Toby grip?

[tom halloran]

I have been shooting a 53# Black Widow PSR standard grip for years and not had a string slap issue with it.

I recently acquired essentially the same bow in a 2 piece take down, but a 50# bow with a Toby grip.

Nothing I have tried is getting rid of string slap mid forearm. I raised the brace height to max recommended of 7 3/4", and no luck.

Tried rotating my elbow as much as possible, no good. Tried a variety of grips, and keep getting stung.

I switch from one to the other using same technique, no slap on the one piece, slap on the two piece.

Anyone had such an issue using two very similar bows? I had a 50# PL with a Toby grip that I got slapped with too, but thought it was because it was a long bow.

Could the Toby grip be the cause?

[McDave]

If the grip causes you to rotate your bow hand in toward the bow, it could cause string slap. I don’t know anything about the Toby grip. The weight of the bow should be on the part of your hand between the lifeline and the base of your thumb.  When I bought a BW with an Asbell grip, they told me all they did to form the Asbell grip was to leave some wood where they would ordinarily sand it off, so if I ever wanted a standard grip, all I had to do was to tell them and they could make the Asbell grip into a standard grip. Maybe the same is true of the the Toby grip, I don't know.

The only thing about a longbow that would cause stringslap is if it were braced too low. The PL is braced high enough that that shouldn’t be a problem.

[Bowguy67]

Post a picture of you drawing n holding bow at full draw

[goingoldskool]

With the two piece, the actual handle is a tad shorter (it is on mine with the beaver tail). So you might be gripping it a little different than your one-piece.  Along with the thicker grip and it being a 2 piece might be enough of a change to create the slap.  I've been stung by my longbow (Toby grip, one piece) but not with my PSR  (2piece, Toby grip).  Making sure it's on your life line in your hand is the place I'd start.

Good luck,  shoot straight and God bless,
Rodd

[tom halloran]

Thanks guys, that gives me somewhere to start.

maybe the fatter grip is causing me to cock my wrist in or something like that.

[Tedd]

Same string recipe? Heavy silencers?
Tedd

[tom halloran]

Tedd that is the variable possibly, my old bow has a skinny string with woolly whispers and the new bow has a BW string with heavier yarn ball silencers. I will swap out the strings and see what that does for me, thanks!

[tom halloran]

OK I swapped strings and the issue reversed itself between bows with my one piece slapping me and the 2 piece being good.

I then removed the heavier silencers from the string on my one piece and the issue got better but not gone.

So I guess the easy fix is to duplicate my string set up for both bows....

But that leads me to the question is the skinny string masking form issues? I tried everything I could think of as far as my grip goes and the only thing I can think of is my elbow rotating back toward the string on release? Guess I need to set up the camera and see about that...

thanks for the insights