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Author Topic: Longbow packed in airline luggage  (Read 1777 times)

Offline tzolk

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Longbow packed in airline luggage
« on: November 26, 2019, 04:34:58 PM »
Hey guys,
I'm thinking about transporting a longbow, 60" non-takedown, on the plane with me. It seems as if it needs to be checked in. Do you think a standard 3" PVC tube will be sufficient to protect it? Any one with experience in this department?
Im thinking that shipping via USPS is probably no different of an experience to the bow but those luggage guys and gals can be brutal.
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Re: Longbow packed in airline luggage
« Reply #1 on: November 26, 2019, 05:54:36 PM »
I've packed my long bows in PVC pipe for checking as baggage.  Never had a problem.  When my hunting partner and I were on the same flite, we'd tape two bow PVC pipes together and each add a PVC pipe filled with arrows.  Duct taped the whole bunch together and checked as one bag. 

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Re: Longbow packed in airline luggage
« Reply #2 on: November 26, 2019, 06:18:37 PM »
I've done it and never had a problem.
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Re: Longbow packed in airline luggage
« Reply #3 on: November 26, 2019, 07:13:38 PM »
I’ve never travelled with a bow that wasn’t a takedown, but if I did I would probably pack it in one of these: https://www.3riversarchery.com/standard-longbow-travel-hard-bow-case.html
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Re: Longbow packed in airline luggage
« Reply #4 on: November 26, 2019, 07:56:52 PM »
Had a one piece longbow for a lot of years (all takedowns in my armory now) and would travel a bit with it. Had a bow tube, arrow tube and a tube for fly rods. Used zip-ties to bind them together (lots of them), tag them and check them when flying.

Was and still am paranoid ....lots of zip-ties, name and address on every tube (inside and out).

Never any problems....no lost, delayed or damaged equipment.
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Longbow packed in airline luggage
« Reply #5 on: November 26, 2019, 10:25:13 PM »
PVC pipe worked great for me the only time I have flown with one piece bows.

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Re: Longbow packed in airline luggage
« Reply #6 on: November 27, 2019, 12:41:47 AM »
I’m pretty sure you get dinged pretty good for oversized luggage. This is exactly why I only purchase t/d now
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Re: Longbow packed in airline luggage
« Reply #7 on: November 27, 2019, 08:32:47 PM »
Sounds like you need to talk with Dan about a new bow!!
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Re: Longbow packed in airline luggage
« Reply #8 on: November 27, 2019, 08:39:12 PM »
Sounds like you need to talk with Dan about a new bow!!

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I was going to ask him to ship it to me to where I'm working in North Dakota next week then I'll bring it home on the plane. Maybe with the tube duct taped to my backpack. Sounds like everyone here has had good success with transporting that way.
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Longbow packed in airline luggage
« Reply #9 on: November 27, 2019, 11:13:39 PM »
My tune was 6”PVC and right at 6ft long, so I could take several bows with me. I did not get charged for oversized. I have also used an SKB double bow case on several occasions, and also not been charged for oversized. The latest trip with the SKB case was to Argentina this past March.

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Re: Longbow packed in airline luggage
« Reply #10 on: November 29, 2019, 09:30:15 PM »
I had my two non-takedown longbows in a fishing rod case when I went to Alaska in 2015.
I live in northern Quebec and drove 14 hours south to Montreal and then flew from there to other connecting U.S. airline flights.

It worked well, but although it was very light (and narrow of course), the same airline charged me $150.00 U.S. extra oversize to go... and then $225.00 U.S. to come home. Different clerks reading the chart differently I suppose.

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Re: Longbow packed in airline luggage
« Reply #11 on: November 30, 2019, 10:17:38 AM »
Ok.  I'm a longbow shooter myself and it just so happens I work for a major airline as a mechanic.  I've flown with mine multiple times.  I personally still get nervous about it.  I also would NOT use standard PVC.  I'd use the heavier schedule 40 type. I've had my tube busted once though the bow was fine luckily.  The airline paid to replace the tube.

The issue is generally two things... But there will be several points I'll try to make

First off, the obvious one is the length of the piece does not lend itself to traveling well on conveyor systems that nearly always have turns in them.  If your item gets jammed in a bend on the conveyor, the belt does not stop, other suitcases continue to come along and everything backs up.  Think of a log getting stuck in a culvert pipe during a storm and other debris washing in behind it.  It builds up until somebody stops the belt or something gives.  Because the conveyors are typically covered, it might be a case of nobody realizes there's a blockage until it blows the top off and suitcases start falling on the ground.  Because conveyors nearly always run from 3-4 stories up in the terminal down to the ramp level outside, it can be a long way down.  The general rule in most airports is that items more than a certain length get put on a special conveyor with no bends OR they get hand carried down to the baggage room.  People travel with skis and golf clubs pretty often. They should know how to handle oversize items. The simple truth is, it doesn't always happen.  Think new guys working and honest mistakes made.  At baggage check in, be sure you ASK about the hand carry or separate baggage belt for bulky items.  Marking the tube with "Fragile, Do Not Bend". Or "Hand Carry if Needed Please" may be a good idea.  Nothing brings anxiety on a hunt more than getting to your destination and being the last guy standing at the baggage carousel because your bow case didn't come up yet... In many airports there is a totally separate belt for such items or, if not, they may get carried up to the baggage claim office by hand.  That office may or may not be near the carousel where your regular bags came up.  A good gate agent should know or be able to find out what you need to do to get your special item at your destination point. Asking ahead of time can save a lot of worry.  Remember, always be polite at check in. Don't be an a-hole about your bow case or it's value.  You can certainly express your opinion or concerns but do it nicely and you should get polite, informative responses in return.

Second point, PVC tubes are round and they ROLL easily.  Remember those conveyors?  Not ALL of them have side guards.  Also, the belt loaders that get pulled up to the side of the plane... They have side guards but many times are not put up or only put up on one side.  A REALLY good idea would be to connect two tubes together or attach something to the tube so it can't roll.  I've seen where guys used a metal banding tool to attach triangular wood blocks for this reason.  Baggage carts are another place to worry about.  They have side doors made of a heavy tarp like material and are supposed to be closed when moving them.  Sometimes they are broken, sometimes the driver just forgets.  I once watched my two gun rifle case come sliding out onto the ramp as the driver made a sweeping turn to position the string of carts to be unloaded onto the plane.  Luckily, it didn't come open!

Another issue with ANY large item is if there is an overweight situation.  Too many bags, too much weight etc and they will start pulling suitcases to send on a later flight.  Guess which cases they pull first?  The biggest, heaviest ones they find.  Granted, a bow in a plastic tube is not heavy but it's bulky.  Just something to think about.  Honestly, I don't think that's really an issue these days but years ago before baggage restrictions it was not uncommon.  Back in the 80's, people didn't want to use carry on's because it was a hassle  Today, it is preferred and checked bags are limited.

Anyway, that's been my experience. Others may vary.  I know some people going on hunts prefer to ship their gun or bow ahead of time if possible.  This let's you get word that everything has arrived safely even before you leave home.  It puts a burden on whoever is running the hunt
though.

Oh, and because tubes CAN be broken, usually on the ends, I always make sure my bow is inside a nice fleece case and there is a pretty good size piece of foam in each end.  I also cut a pair of foam "donuts" that I slide over each limb to about the mid point and which need to be compressed a bit to fit inside the tube.  This keeps things from rattling around in the tube and more importantly, if an end cap gets broken, it keeps the bow from sliding out.  It saved mine when the cap was broken.
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Re: Longbow packed in airline luggage
« Reply #12 on: December 01, 2019, 12:53:57 PM »
Good thoughts, Schedule 40 PVC for sure.   :campfire:
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Re: Longbow packed in airline luggage
« Reply #13 on: December 03, 2019, 12:57:33 PM »
I think American Airlines limit for length is 126". I am going to Wyoming Next Sept for Antelope and hope to hunt with a selfbow. This thread is perfectly timed as I am weigh options for transportation. Mail, or checked bag/tube...?
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Re: Longbow packed in airline luggage
« Reply #14 on: December 03, 2019, 03:35:50 PM »
Headed to Bismark ND right now and I saw a guy at Detroit Metro check in 2 hockey sticks taped together. That gives me hope for the trip back.
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Re: Longbow packed in airline luggage
« Reply #15 on: December 03, 2019, 07:50:28 PM »
PVC will be fine....checked or shipped.  I have bow tubes with more frequent flyer miles than most people.

Don't buy thin/cheap and you won't have issues like posted above and it will last for years.

Oversized bags aren't handled or 'coveyed' like normal sized bags for issues listed above.

Carry a rope loop in your carry on so you can loop over and through for a handle once you pick it up at baggage claim.
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Re: Longbow packed in airline luggage
« Reply #16 on: December 05, 2019, 10:11:26 AM »
Carry a rope loop in your carry on so you can loop over and through for a handle once you pick it up at baggage claim.

Excellent thought/idea.   :campfire:
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Re: Longbow packed in airline luggage
« Reply #17 on: December 07, 2019, 05:43:23 PM »
She arrived at the hotel and it will be on a Delta flight Tuesday morning back to the mitten with me. What a beaut! 60" Toelke Whistler.
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