If you're going to order from Day One, expect delays and flaws, as well as exaggerated delivery dates. I have a bunch of camo from Gary, and eventually I got what I wanted in every case, but in almost every case I had to return the original item for what I really wanted (marked wrong size, sent insulated when I only wanted wind barier, sent jacket without backtag holder (twice), sent vest with stitching not completed, and never paid be back for return shipping as promised). The end product is nice, but Gary really needs to hire a business Manager and quality control consultant.