Guys is sort of like the squealing hen. Everything works once in a while. That call isn’t made anymore either. If it was a call that actually worked consistantly it’s not have gone away. Every nimrod would walk in the woods a blow it shoring deer as the game in time and time again. That wasn’t really the case. Does and fawns come in many times to turkey diaphragm calls. It sounds nothing like a turkey but the do come in occasionally. The call might be just another last chance or another chance effort. It’s just not at least in my area a consistent producer. Start a thread. Everyone post up pics killed w a k meer deer call. Not many pics would be posted I bet. Wonder why??