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Repair advice needed, thanks
« on: September 07, 2021, 12:22:17 PM »
I have friends bow that has developed separation of the lams in multiple spots, wondering what the group would recommend for repairs?

My thought would be to some how get thin CA glue in cracks and clamp until dry. Would this work in this situation?





May have to enlarge pic’s to separations. Cracks are about a hairs width in size.
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Re: Repair advice needed, thanks
« Reply #1 on: September 07, 2021, 06:17:48 PM »
I have more questions, than suggestions.

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Re: Repair advice needed, thanks
« Reply #2 on: September 07, 2021, 06:36:51 PM »
Alright, what you need to know?  :goldtooth:
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Re: Repair advice needed, thanks
« Reply #3 on: September 07, 2021, 07:06:21 PM »
Has this bow been in a storage shed/unit, or out side of a house with A/C?
looks fishy  :dunno:
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Re: Repair advice needed, thanks
« Reply #4 on: September 07, 2021, 07:16:54 PM »
Ok, Do you know who glued the bow together? How old is it? How has it been stored and used, temps, abuse, etc. Was this something you or he noticed when it happened or saw it later?

looking at how those gaps are down in the fades, I would think it happened at full draw. Be nice to know how and why, otherwise its just going to happen again, even if you fill the gap with glue.

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Re: Repair advice needed, thanks
« Reply #5 on: September 07, 2021, 07:20:25 PM »
Is it me, or does the finish in that one picture look like 80grit. I'm thinking this is homemade, in which case we will need all the build info also. :bigsmyl:

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Re: Repair advice needed, thanks
« Reply #6 on: September 07, 2021, 08:03:45 PM »
Ok, guys here’s the short of it. The owner doesn’t want to draw attention to the maker as it is past warranty. No fault of the bowyer.

I was looking only for repair suggestions to try and correct if possible as the bow was gifted to owner by us buddies. And had some sentimental value.

If the consensus is too far gone with several lams showing signs of separation so be it.

The bow was not dry fired or abused other than normal hunting wear and tear. Thanks

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Re: Repair advice needed, thanks
« Reply #7 on: September 07, 2021, 08:43:32 PM »
Can you close up that crack at the fade with 2 pieces of wood and some c clamps with some really thin super glue.
May not have used enough glue at glueup  :dunno:
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Re: Repair advice needed, thanks
« Reply #8 on: September 07, 2021, 08:59:27 PM »
Can you close up that crack at the fade with 2 pieces of wood and some c clamps with some really thin super glue.
May not have used enough glue at glueup  :dunno:

This, but I really hate shooting a bow that has been fixed with CA . I know, somebody has done it and it worked forever, but I may just be too cautious... :saywhat:
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« Reply #9 on: September 07, 2021, 09:40:48 PM »
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« Reply #10 on: September 07, 2021, 09:47:39 PM »
Just don’t care for it , and sure not if anybody else gonna shoot it
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« Reply #11 on: September 07, 2021, 09:49:15 PM »
Best thing would be to take it back to the builder and see what he said.
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Re: Repair advice needed, thanks
« Reply #12 on: September 08, 2021, 01:09:02 PM »
A syringe and needle can be used to inject EA-40 into cracks/gaps if you would rather use that instead of CA.  It is very hard to press out of the syringe, but it can be done with the proper amount of time and patience.  Slow, steady pressure works better than pushing as hard as you can.

If a needle won't fit, you can use a tongue depressor to pack EA-40 into the gap as well.  Start on one side of the gap and work your way across.  Put a bit of adhesive on the sick, press it down into the crack, then slide the stick off the gap in a wiping motion (don't pick the stick up off the gap, it will pull the adhesive back out).  You should see adhesive squishing out of the gap on the sides of the stick if your doing it right.  Pack the whole thing full and then clamp snug, not tight.  Your aim here is to bond the structure more than it is to close the gap, don't starve it.  Let me know if you have any questions!

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Re: Repair advice needed, thanks
« Reply #13 on: September 15, 2021, 11:04:03 AM »
I think that bow is done for super glue isnt going to help it . It looks like there may have been a dip in the in the handle where the crack is . Its coming apart and super glue is not strong enough to stop it and what ever you use you wont get it in all the way to the epoxy .
  Some think you can fix anything with super glue and use it for tip overlays and what not its not good enough and has a short life compared to epoxy .

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Re: Repair advice needed, thanks
« Reply #14 on: September 15, 2021, 12:11:26 PM »
Thanks guys. The owner has as much given up hope on the bow at this point.
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Re: Repair advice needed, thanks
« Reply #15 on: September 15, 2021, 06:44:58 PM »
I hope he has given up on the bowyer also. Warranty is a bizarre concept for a bow. It should work, period.
There must be thousands of bows that are decades old, in service. I have a 45 yr old bow that I made as a teen and still shoot all the time.

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« Reply #16 on: September 15, 2021, 07:35:27 PM »
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Re: Repair advice needed, thanks
« Reply #17 on: September 16, 2021, 10:05:47 AM »
Flem I have to disagree. Warranty is warranty. Most Bowyers will go beyond that.
But but if you bring me a bow back that's 25 years old prolly not gonna cover it because you knew the terms when you bought it.
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Re: Repair advice needed, thanks
« Reply #18 on: September 16, 2021, 11:14:25 AM »
I agree Stic, also Bowyers can not be responsible for someone else's mistakes or abuse. If  a mistaken dry fire or stringing mistake happens and Bow is damaged its not the Bowyers fault and they should not be held responsible, common sense Law. Most Bowyers warranty's are similar in respect to what is normal use and care.

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Re: Repair advice needed, thanks
« Reply #19 on: September 17, 2021, 01:34:14 AM »
I hear you guys, but thats not the case here. That bow is not old and the failure was in the construction, unless the OP has been yanking our chains. Did you notice the finish in that close up pic? It looks like it was dragged thru a sandbox! Maybe he is better off finding a new bowyer.


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