Tuning issue

[Kirkll]

There have been a lot of good suggestions, opinions, and options to help you get this straightened out.  I would be interested in hearing what solution you find gets you back on track.

Kirk

[boucheed]

Kirk.

I did a couple things today.  First I took a page from clay Hayes and put a toothpick under the rest and behind the strike plate. It didn’t reduce my nock low dramatically but it helped. Then I shot a fletched arrow. I was amazed at how true the arrow impacted the target. I was in awe that at 15 yards how much fletched arrows correct issues. I have more testing to do and still plan on trying split finger to see what happens there. More to come.

[blacktailbob]

YES, there is a reason why we put feather on arrows...to make them fly straight. Kind of like sighting in your rifle with a smooth bore then putting on a rifled barrel.
I never bare shaft tune.

[4 point]

If your bare shaft, a fletched arrow with a broadhead and your fletched arrows with field points all group together constantly your good to go is how I always figure. I’ve never been able to tune a bare shaft to fly like a dart.

[Pointed_stick]

I set up a fletched arrow and the plan on shooting that today. Ultimately I could be my form as well. I have never shot three under until now either. I may go get a new tab or glove to see if there is a difference. BTW I am running both a top and bottom nocking point if that makes a difference. Thank you for all the replies

It may not apply to your situation. I also run top/bottom nock points on all my set ups, and often shoot 3 under. I switched to using only the tie on string nocks, if you are using crimp on brass variety they can pinch the nock at draw when too close together, which to me does disturb the arrow flight upon release. The tie ons are much more forgiving in this regard.

[boucheed]

I am using tie in nock points as well. Things are working better now.

[boucheed]

Okay so today I went and bought a glove tried to shoot it versus the tab. Found it more difficult than I thought and I don’t think that my Release or form is what it should be.  I keep trying to use the tip of my arrow for a point on and I’m struggling to find a spot to aim. Went back to the tab things seem to little easier. How expect to be frustrated with this for sometime as it’s new and not a compound. I also weighed my arrows today weighing in at 620 grains out of a 45 pound bow with my drawling probably more like 48 pounds. Any suggestions on aiming or form would be greatly appreciated thanks again you all are great

[Kirkll]

It takes awhile to get your confidence and consistency down as an archer. If you concentrate on form first your groups will come together nicely. Your alignment at anchor is one of the single most important things to work on. Once you get that developed and learn to use back tension instead of holding that draw with your arms alone, you can fine tune your release a lot easier.

Once you learn to relax at full draw and get off the string clean.
You can concentrate on the spot where you want that arrow to go, and not concentrate on aiming at all……. Think about throwing a baseball, or a knife,or even shooting a basketball…. You don’t aim… it just happens… you concentrate on where you want it to go, and that’s it.

 instinctive shooting style vs a gap aiming method is misleading. I firmly believe that they both “Become” instinctive as your skill level and confidence increases with good form and practice . The more you think about it, the more you second guess yourself.  The so called instinctive shooting is still done with a gap from your point of arrow or arrow shelf to the point of impact, but it’s done with the subconscious mind, as you focus on your spot. You don’t set the gap, or think about it at all, but it’s still there. Just concentrate on getting to anchor, your breathing, and focus on your point of impact…..  once that starts happening you’ll never go back to shooting sight pins again.

 It’s a very satisfying experience once it comes together for you…..     that’s about .05 cents worth of my philosophy.

     Kirk

[boucheed]

Thanks Kirk. More work to do. Lol

Dan

[Kirkll]

Don't consider it work my friend... consider it an adventure. Trying to self teach all these little things takes much longer if you go it alone. I highly recommend shooting with other experienced archers if at all possible. Sometimes you can find these guys at 3D shoots, and sometimes shooting a target league can help with your form a lot.  Having someone at your alignment at full draw helps a lot. You will most likely alter your anchor point as your alignment straightens out, and your draw length typically increases.  I started out at 28.5", and ended up with a full 30" draw.

I'm a hunter at heart, and love shooting 3D and even stump shooting, even though its tough on arrows. But.... shooting targets indoors during the winter months with a lighter draw weight bow helped me develop and fine tune my alignment quite a bit. Come spring time and 3D season i ease back into my hunting weight bow again and shoot all summer with my hunting bow with a lot better form.

I do not shoot indoor targets any more, or compete as a target archer. But it was great training that was well worth while.      Enjoy the journey.....    Kirk

[Orion]

Kirk x 2. From your initial post, I assumed you had been at this a while.  I shouldn't make assumptions.