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Offline Terry Green

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Anyone want to help this gentleman out>
« on: September 04, 2022, 08:39:44 PM »
Terry,
I haven't been on Tradgang for many years.
I am 79 years old and planning on returning to hunting this fall. What I need help with is a way to determine total distance of my arrow with differing head types and weights. I am trying to determine the effective distance the arrow will travel to make a kill using different weight broadheads. Can you help me find the appropriate formula in making the necessary measurements?

Thanks for your time and attention.

Sincerely,

Ron Dodge

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Re: Anyone want to help this gentleman out>
« Reply #1 on: September 04, 2022, 10:04:35 PM »
Not exactly sure what he's looking for...???
I know some states, you have to be able to propel a "legal big game arrow" 150 yards... :dunno:
Heck, you can pretty much do that with a kids bow....

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Re: Anyone want to help this gentleman out>
« Reply #2 on: September 05, 2022, 07:50:33 AM »
Here's a link to some very heavy math to predict trajectory:
https://math.stackexchange.com/questions/3486775/how-do-you-calculate-the-trajectory-of-an-arrow

A more simple way.
1. Assume an arrow tipped with a sharp broadhead will kill as far as it will shoot.
2. Shoot the particular arrow from the subject bow at about 45 degrees (I believe I might be a couple degrees off here due to friction). That is the answer for that set-up.

The question is interesting, but application is impractical for hunting. I doubt anyone could make a lethal shot at the maximum range of an arrow out of a bow.  Now, if someone is dealing with the limits of a broadhead tipped arrow regarding property lines, or city limits, ordinances, etc. I see the application. Of course a thrown baseball bat is more likely to kill someone than an errant arrow.

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Re: Anyone want to help this gentleman out>
« Reply #3 on: September 05, 2022, 08:29:54 AM »
His name is Ron Dodge and that is his screen name in here.

I sent him an email with a link to this thread so we will see if he responds in here.

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Re: Anyone want to help this gentleman out>
« Reply #4 on: September 05, 2022, 08:41:14 AM »
Yes Roy, he emailed me the above...I emailed him the link soon as I posted it as he emailed me the above.... 

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Re: Anyone want to help this gentleman out>
« Reply #5 on: September 05, 2022, 08:47:17 AM »
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« Reply #6 on: September 05, 2022, 08:05:55 PM »
Bowwild;
Pretty much nailed it.  Another thing to consider is will the critter be there when the arrow arrives?
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Re: Anyone want to help this gentleman out>
« Reply #7 on: September 13, 2022, 04:30:36 PM »
I think the OP is actually trying to figure out how far his effective range can be based on equipment rather than accuracy and/or assuming accuracy is perfect. For example, there are endless discussions about whether 35# is enough to kill a deer, and while there are always exceptions, I think its safe to say that a 'reliable' kill on a whitetail with a 35# bow and a 350  grain arrow, including broadhead, is limited to no more than 30 yards, with a EXCELLENT high -percentage shot , a well-tuned bow/arrow combo, a very sharp broadhead and  a standing still stupid deer. But nobody should be taking a 30 yard shot at a whitetail with a 35# bow unless they are a very practiced and accurate archer, and maybe not even then ( I know I took some shots as a 14 year old I would never condone, now). But that's just one example, and I picked that one knowing the OP is 79 years old and is just getting back to archery. Other than these debates, I dont know of any published reference that says a hunter can shoot at game up to X yards providing he has the right combination of y actual draw weight and z arrow weight. More importantly, these are some of the last questions somebody should be worried about before going out with a stick and string.   
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Re: Anyone want to help this gentleman out>
« Reply #8 on: September 13, 2022, 08:56:35 PM »
I agree with mangonboat.  The only way to resolve this issue for anyone is to make up some arrows and shoot them.  Find out what distance you can reliably hit within a 6” circle if you're hunting whitetail.  Tune the arrows to your bow, so they fly straight, using whatever method of tuning appeals to you.  If the OP is looking for suggestions as to an appropriate arrow, if he would post his bow specs and draw length, I’m sure he would get a lot of them.
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Re: Anyone want to help this gentleman out>
« Reply #9 on: September 13, 2022, 11:44:36 PM »
I would probably just keep it simple.Find an arrow and broadhead thats gonna be around 9 to 11 grains per pound that spined right and has a killer broadhead on it and flies well and keep the shots close.

AS McDave recommended you might let folks know what poundage bow you are shooting,what bow and draw length and get some feedback when guys know what your shooting as far as some good arrow and point weight choices.

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