I was lucky enough to get some from up in the mid west, and planted 'em this spring. Just now comming up. Have already planted some of my own from last year. In the wet bottoms they look good, but where its dry they're hurting. Next time I'll wait until the fall and set them out. Got several hundred set out. Put some in an old fence row at dad's old farn, well my wife mowed the biggest one down last summer. It was about 5' and 3 or 4 yrs. old. They'll be better marked from now on!