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Re: Greying under clear glass?
« Reply #20 on: July 30, 2023, 08:08:03 PM »
Very nice looking spliced veneers ... :clapper: :clapper:
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Re: Greying under clear glass?
« Reply #21 on: July 30, 2023, 09:11:30 PM »
Thanks kirk
I was just trying to get the Orange off so I would have a matching set.
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Re: Greying under clear glass?
« Reply #22 on: July 31, 2023, 12:56:57 AM »
Thanks kirk
I was just trying to get the Orange off so I would have a matching set.

Had to wipe them all in one direction I’d bet… nice looking combo Bocote and coco.
Its too bad the cocobolo is so hard to come by any more. Even finding nice looking Bocote is getting tough to find. I used to stock the stuff years ago. Now I can’t find it when I want it, and if I do, they want a bloody fortune for it.    :dunno: :dunno:
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Re: Greying under clear glass?
« Reply #23 on: July 31, 2023, 08:58:00 AM »
Maybe a little bit scarce on glue, or to much pressure when gluing up?On my oily laminations. I only use denatured alcohol. Never acetone. Haven't had a problem using denatured. JF
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Re: Greying under clear glass?
« Reply #24 on: July 31, 2023, 05:28:04 PM »
Thanks kirk
I was just trying to get the Orange off so I would have a matching set.

Had to wipe them all in one direction I’d bet… nice looking combo Bocote and coco.
Its too bad the cocobolo is so hard to come by any more. Even finding nice looking Bocote is getting tough to find. I used to stock the stuff years ago. Now I can’t find it when I want it, and if I do, they want a bloody fortune for it.    :dunno: :dunno:


Just on that 1 orange one Kirk, did not wipe the others :thumbsup:
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Re: Greying under clear glass?
« Reply #25 on: August 02, 2023, 11:26:30 AM »
Coco bolo gets lighter and lighter as you washed it it takes the oil off , your rag will never be clean but it will notice cleaner and cleaner if you keep changing rags  . Ive made hundreds of bows with coco and washed them all none came apart . I wouldnt use coco under clear glass if you are having trouble with streaks in the clear glass.
  Id be scared of a bow that was not cleaned before glue up .

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Re: Greying under clear glass?
« Reply #26 on: August 03, 2023, 09:05:33 AM »
Coco bolo gets lighter and lighter as you washed it it takes the oil off , your rag will never be clean but it will notice cleaner and cleaner if you keep changing rags  . Ive made hundreds of bows with coco and washed them all none came apart . I wouldnt use coco under clear glass if you are having trouble with streaks in the clear glass.
  Id be scared of a bow that was not cleaned before glue up .

You have a photo gallery of your bows Tim? Love to see some of your finished product on these “clean” bows…..  Kirk
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Re: Greying under clear glass?
« Reply #27 on: November 17, 2023, 10:48:50 AM »
I made bows from 2003  - 2023, 17 of those years professionally, and if I can pick one thing bad about my whole experience, it was clear fiberglass. 
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Re: Greying under clear glass?
« Reply #28 on: November 17, 2023, 12:52:41 PM »
I made bows from 2003  - 2023, 17 of those years professionally, and if I can pick one thing bad about my whole experience, it was clear fiberglass.

Amen brother...  Amen... I'll bet i have had 30 sets of black walnut limbs under so called clear glass over the years that i ended up doing a camo paint job or sprayed them black so i could use them.

I had a couple bows many years ago that i had to do 3 different lay ups to get nice looking product. That was when i decided not to warranty or guarantee glass clarity at all, and started warning guys that insisted on dark veneers under glass that it is, what it is.    Kirk
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Re: Greying under clear glass?
« Reply #29 on: November 17, 2023, 03:13:36 PM »
Well, to do or not to do. Both ways seem to work, perhaps it shows that modern glues are very strong. I once read a book on gluing up wood and other materials, written by a Swedish expert on these matters. He said that if you look at a freshly planed board of wood it feels and looks very smooth. But looking at the same board magnified many times it looks like « mountain tops and valleys» If there is a finger print or other grease on that board, the least suitable you can do is wipe it with a rag and solvent. All you will achieve is scooping the grease into the valleys and thinning it on the mountain tops.  :dunno: I have done both ways without problems.

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