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Offline socalmonster09

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Difference in bows
« on: January 06, 2024, 02:12:27 PM »
Yesterday I shot two different bow, one was a older Wing Redwing Hunter 57" 47 pd and the other
was a STALKER STICKBOWS three piece 60" 50pd, I was shooting the Wing Hunter on the 3D
range very nice bow to shoot then at one of the station, I shot the Stalker three piece, what a
different, I through it would be harder to pull because it was three more pounds but it was much
easier, These are to different bow. with my short draw I have lots to thing about what will my
hunting bow will be. I liked both, lots of options.  :thumbsup: If you had a short draw what would
your options be.

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Re: Difference in bows
« Reply #1 on: January 06, 2024, 03:21:32 PM »
I recently picked up a Browning Nomad Stalker 1, 52" long and I was greatly impressed with the performance of this tiny beast. For a bow I picked up at auction for under 100.00 I feel I got a great deal and a great Turkey bow.

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Re: Difference in bows
« Reply #2 on: January 06, 2024, 03:52:24 PM »
The stalker may have more pre load.Where thier is more tension at the beggining of the draw and it smoothes out and has the feeling or sensation of let off near the end of the draw.

The red wing is a full working recurve and typiclly has less tension at the beginning of the draw and the poundage builds more toward the end of the draw than some other designs that have more preload.Like super static recurves with big hooks.

Also the scales could just be different or scale different that the bowyers were using.Or they measure the draw differently where they scale the bow at.The Red Wings are old bows.The scales they used could be different than what Stalker used.

Sometimes bows are mismarked as well.

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Re: Difference in bows
« Reply #3 on: January 06, 2024, 04:14:02 PM »
steelhead x 2, especially the last two paragraphs. 

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Re: Difference in bows
« Reply #4 on: January 06, 2024, 04:25:55 PM »
Have you considered the short hybrids? The Toelke Pika, Javaman Elkheart, Shrew Classic Hunter, and Big Jim's Thunderchild all come in very short lengths that might work well for your DL.
Toelke Chinook 58" 52@28
Toelke Pika 54" 50@28
Toelke Whip 64" 42@28
Java Man Elkheart Magnum 52" 48@28
Centaur Longbow 60" 50@28
Black Widow PL III 62" 53@28

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Re: Difference in bows
« Reply #5 on: January 06, 2024, 05:18:43 PM »
It is pretty significant, in my opinion, how much of a difference there is between a nice custom bow and the old one piece or even the newer one piece factory bows.

Nothing wrong with the old one piece bows, some are fine shooters. But in my opinion the increased mass weight of a custom 3 piece takedown almost has the illusion that it is smoother simply because of the increased stability upon drawing and shooting. After shooting custom bows for so long I don't think I could ever go back to shooting my vintage one piece bows.

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Re: Difference in bows
« Reply #6 on: January 06, 2024, 06:35:41 PM »
I’m no expert, but one thing that’s for sure is every bow will fit and feel different to most every shooter to a degree. That’s why it’s so much fun to try new bows. One that fits me perfectly may feel terrible to you. You got a lot of good info before I chimed in.

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Re: Difference in bows
« Reply #7 on: January 06, 2024, 08:22:21 PM »
With a short draw, you would benefit most from a recurve that had a relatively long riser and short limbs.  I'm not talking short bow length overall, maybe 60”.  This combination allows you to stress the recurves sufficiently to open up, and you get the power back when you shoot the bow.

What you would benefit from least would be a long longbow, because they really don't begin to store much power until pretty far into the draw.

A short longbow?  That is a possibility, altough not one I have much experience with.  But people seem to get remarkable performance out of some short longbows like a 56” or 58” Shrew.
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Re: Difference in bows
« Reply #8 on: January 06, 2024, 08:46:28 PM »
I draw 28 1/2" and have a little D/R longbow, a 56" Toelke Pika that is very smooth, quick and quiet. If I had a shorter draw the 54" version would appeal

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Re: Difference in bows
« Reply #9 on: January 06, 2024, 09:37:09 PM »
I can second the 56” Pika being a phenomenal performer at 28 1/2” draw. Whistler is right there as well, albeit a little longer.

Offline Maclean

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Re: Difference in bows
« Reply #10 on: January 06, 2024, 11:43:33 PM »
I'm also part of the 28+" clan. I talked with Dan at length about getting the most I could out of the shortest bow possible. I was concerned that the 54" Pika would be too short for my DL, but he told me that it wouldn't stack or pinch at that draw. While a 56" might feel a bit smoother, the 54" reaches it's full potential past 28". And he's right, its smooth,  comfortable,  and just smokes an arrow. It's size and quietness make it extremely huntable, no matter if you're in the trees, on the ground, or in a blind. I like short bows.
Toelke Chinook 58" 52@28
Toelke Pika 54" 50@28
Toelke Whip 64" 42@28
Java Man Elkheart Magnum 52" 48@28
Centaur Longbow 60" 50@28
Black Widow PL III 62" 53@28

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Offline socalmonster09

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Re: Difference in bows
« Reply #11 on: January 07, 2024, 02:22:00 PM »
Thanks for all the great info, I do have the Holm River Runner Static 57" 43.5pd @28 Recurve and
 a Holm Osprey 58" 40pd @28 longbow that I really like. I was trying out the poundage and the feel
of the other bows which I didn't like the grip/weight of the 3 piece bow. I like the feel of the recurve
more than the longbow but in all honesty I haven't shot it much. I wish there where more traditional
expo here in around CA so you could try out different manufactures bow. I think a 56" to 60"
and 50 to 52 pound would work out great for a hunting bow for me. I will look into the Pika bow.
I do the the feel/looks of a one piece bow, couple of the other shooter at the club have BW bow
that there going to let me try out that have more poundage. I'm taking my time and learning
every time I go shoot my bows and talking with people at the club and here. thanks

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Re: Difference in bows
« Reply #12 on: January 07, 2024, 04:38:57 PM »
You do have 2 really bows thier.Probably not gonna do much better in bows under 60 inches as long as you shoot them well.

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