Thank you,I like the idea of the white cap already on the shaft. If you want to add any bright color over top, it will pop. The only reason I am looking at them is the fact that I'm having trouble finding a cedar shafts for a new bow. All my stuff is 80-85 spine, or .340s and .300s carbons. My newest bow is less draw weight and less center shot. I have a 20 year old stock of heavy spine old growth cedar shafts that are as straight as a wood shaft could be. The cedar shafts I have purchased recently just do not compare.I do have some 70-75s back order from Surewood. I feel like those will be a quality shaft. Anything I got from them in the past was exceptional.Tedd give Ryley a call or check out his website from Archery past he has 70-75 in stock he and Carson are good friends both great guys Tedd