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Author Topic: do wood arrows fly different the carbon  (Read 496 times)

Offline mike319

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do wood arrows fly different the carbon
« on: June 30, 2008, 08:50:00 AM »
will wood arrows fly different than carbon arrows.they both hit were i aim but if you watch the flight  the carbons seem very straight but the wood arrows wobble left and right takes longer to recover from the shot. is this normal.
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Re: do wood arrows fly different the carbon
« Reply #1 on: June 30, 2008, 09:21:00 AM »
Yes, wood will take longer to recover from paradox, as carbons will recover almost after it leaves the bow.

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Re: do wood arrows fly different the carbon
« Reply #2 on: June 30, 2008, 09:22:00 AM »
Woodies will fly the same if they are perfectly straight and matched exactly the same for your bow.  That being said it is very had to achive this with a wood shaft.  I like my woods so dont get me wrong but unless them are perfectly straight you are going to see some flight differences between them and carbon or aluminum which are manufactured to be.  I no longer shoot carbon and only shoot wood and aluminum now but sometimes your have to play with wood to get them to fly perfect.
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Re: do wood arrows fly different the carbon
« Reply #3 on: June 30, 2008, 09:45:00 AM »
Properly tuned and correct spine, woodies will not wobble back and forth any more than anything else-that is poor arrow flight regardless of material.
What I have observed is that wood is often a bit heavier-although the others can be heavier too-and so the arrow can be seen in flight just a bit more-very pretty to watch-but don't lower that bow arm! LOL!

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Re: do wood arrows fly different the carbon
« Reply #4 on: June 30, 2008, 10:16:00 AM »
Bjorn is correct....they are not matched to your set-up if they are wobbling.  They will fly every bit as good as any other material when set up correctly.

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Re: do wood arrows fly different the carbon
« Reply #5 on: June 30, 2008, 10:27:00 AM »
With the improved designs in todays modern bows and the use of high performance strings, wood arrows need to be stiffer spined. For example, a 55# bow with a fast flight string may need arrows spined at 65-70#. The longer you cut the arrow the stiffer it will need to be. A proper spined wood arrow will fly as well as a carbon or aluminum arrow.
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Re: do wood arrows fly different the carbon
« Reply #6 on: June 30, 2008, 12:05:00 PM »
Those wood arrows better fly good Ron, I just bought a dozen of the Shadow Wings from you at Compton's!
So far, they fly great and they are a handsome match for my new Zipper recurve  :thumbsup:
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Re: do wood arrows fly different the carbon
« Reply #7 on: June 30, 2008, 03:56:00 PM »
If both arrows are tuned correctly to the bow...both will fly very well. You might see a very slight impact with wood to the left vs the carbon due to the larger circumference of the wood arrow.
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Re: do wood arrows fly different the carbon
« Reply #8 on: June 30, 2008, 04:49:00 PM »
Not when I shoot them.....   :rolleyes:
I only shoot WOOD arrows... My kid makes them, fast as I can break them!

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Re: do wood arrows fly different the carbon
« Reply #9 on: June 30, 2008, 04:55:00 PM »
Woody's fly like a kite with out a tale,   :biglaugh:    :biglaugh:    :biglaugh:

Woody's have soul and warmth, there cool, past that, when it comes to performance, there in last place.

Woody's stay in the archers paradox twice as long as carbons.

Carbon's just have no soul, there like a shark's eye, just death in there soul.

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Re: do wood arrows fly different the carbon
« Reply #10 on: June 30, 2008, 05:19:00 PM »
Woods do take longer to recover from paradox but with a well tuned wood just as with a well tuned carbon the eye will see nothing but 3 fletches turning around a nock as they fly away.

The statment above is generaly speaking, with the materials out now days there are always expetions to the rule
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Re: do wood arrows fly different the carbon
« Reply #11 on: June 30, 2008, 06:02:00 PM »
Mike the proof is in the picture. If you look at my thread "Shot The Longbows Yesterday" You'll see in the "Leaf" picture there are 3 different types of arrows all shot with a Horne's Traditionalist Longbow. The bow is 50#s at my 27" draw. The woodies are TAPERED  cedars, 50/55 28"s long with 145 grain field tip , 35/55 Gold Tip Traditionals cut 27 3/4's with 250 gn field tip, and Blackhawk Vapor Carbonwood 3000's cut to 28"s also with 250 gn field tip. I think they all fly well out of the bow. You just have to do a little experimenting.

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Re: do wood arrows fly different the carbon
« Reply #12 on: July 01, 2008, 07:43:00 AM »
My Forgewoods and lam birch fly ever bit as good as my AD Trads and CT Rhinos. The carbons may be a bit faster but flight is the same.

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Re: do wood arrows fly different the carbon
« Reply #13 on: July 01, 2008, 08:06:00 AM »
I have to agree with curtis on this one, wood takes quite a bit longer to recover than carbon. I have a good eye and see the wood go thru that longer paradox, no doubt about it. Even when I stand behind and watch anothere shooter I pick up that wobble when they say there was not a wiggle. Ron, I think ya meant the longer ya cut an arrow the weaker it will become. Shawn
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Re: do wood arrows fly different the carbon
« Reply #14 on: July 01, 2008, 08:08:00 AM »
Curtis, did have a post on here that said carbon recovers way quicker than wood when going thru paradox, I do not know what happened to it! I could be cracking up though, as I see MG stated that too! Shawn
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Re: do wood arrows fly different the carbon
« Reply #15 on: July 01, 2008, 08:23:00 AM »
Shawn, Ron said "The longer you cut the arrow, the stiffer it will NEED to be." He is correct in that (though I know he didn't need me confirming that for him).

I do agree with those who have stated that carbon does recover quicker from paradox, I have seen verification of that on some high speed video floating on the internet.

While they may "fly" different, I think it would take the likes of Howard Hill or an olympic class shooter to make discernable differences in accuracy at hunting distances.
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Re: do wood arrows fly different the carbon
« Reply #16 on: July 01, 2008, 02:12:00 PM »
Biggest difference IMO is that to get a dozen arrows that fly great, you need a dozen carbon shafts.  They are all the same, or at least so close you can't tell any difference.  Not so with wood.  It might take 20 or 30 shafts to get the same dozen that fly alike.  The wood shafts might also need some tweaking from time to time.  Don't see many folks lookin down their carbons for straightness.

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Re: do wood arrows fly different the carbon
« Reply #17 on: July 01, 2008, 03:16:00 PM »
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While they may "fly" different, I think it would take the likes of Howard Hill or an olympic class shooter to make discernable differences in accuracy at hunting distances.
JC, I agree with accuracy, however with all do respect my friend, it is at hunting ranges that there is the biggest deference's between the two kinds of shafts.

At 10yds the woody still looks like a salmon trying to go up river, thus limiting it's ability to drive deep into the flesh of our intended query.

The carbon has straighted out a few feet out of the bow, driving the shaft deep into the flesh of our intended query.

I shoot woody's for the warmth and beauty they have, not for there performance.

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