Since discovering LB it is the only shaft I have shot since then, When I floated the Moose John two years ago I was shooting a 70# Robertson and the arrows were LB and they finished right at 800 grains( includes a 160 Magnus w/ a few extra dips of laquer, I did not get a moose there but came home to shoot numerous deer with the same arrow/head, I just steamed the feathers and they were like brand new, I love them, tough,easy to straighten and I get mine from 3 Rivers good luck if you choose them you will like them.