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Author Topic: Footing a carbon  (Read 2625 times)

Offline Emmons

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Re: Footing a carbon
« Reply #20 on: February 24, 2007, 06:56:00 PM »
I have been thinking about footing some of the Beaman MXF shaft that I shoot, but I don't like the idea of having an arrow longer then I need.  How many of you guys that foot your shaft draw the footing up on the rest/shelve or do you all leave them long?  I was thinking about this and if I make the transition smooth, it should almost shoot like a tapered shaft with the front end being larger then the back.  It would also reduce the spine by the add weight and the reduction of center shot.

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Offline Steve O

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Re: Footing a carbon
« Reply #21 on: February 25, 2007, 06:35:00 AM »
BiC,

Unlike most that have posted, I only use 1" of foot.  This is long enough to cover the area not supported by the axis insert and adds only about 10 grains (already have 250g up there).  My arrows are just long enough so I don't draw up on the footed section.  I beleive you are thinking correctly about it acting as a tapered shaft...

I do run the back of the footings over my rifle cartridge brass chambfer for a tapered transition.

Offline JImmyDee

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Re: Footing a carbon
« Reply #22 on: February 25, 2007, 07:10:00 AM »
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Originally posted by bowhunterinchile:
I have been thinking about footing some of the Beaman MXF shaft that I shoot, but I don't like the idea of having an arrow longer then I need.  How many of you guys that foot your shaft draw the footing up on the rest/shelve or do you all leave them long?
I worried about that, too, but it seems that carbon arrows cut to the same length as my wooden arrows don't fly well.  I can't say that I've got it all figured out, but longer carbons seems to group better (for me -- so far) and the 2" sleeve isn't on my shelf.

Offline southpawshooter

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Re: Footing a carbon
« Reply #23 on: February 25, 2007, 08:24:00 AM »
Wudstix -

I use 2413 on AD Trad Lites - should work on the greens too, I'd imagine.

I've drawn the footing into the shelf without problem.  On thinner footings I don't worry about the transition, but if it catches on your shelf material you can chamfer then back end of the footing with a dremel easily enough.
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Offline Bill Carlsen

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Re: Footing a carbon
« Reply #24 on: February 25, 2007, 08:55:00 AM »
In regards to the Axis/Beman shafts I try to keep some 2020, 2018 and 2016 shafts or pieces around for footing them. The black shafts are more suited to using the 2020 and 2018 and the camo or woodgrain shafs seem to do well with the 2016. I use 1" pieces and use 2 ton epoxy to keep them in place.
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Offline Bill Carlsen

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Re: Footing a carbon
« Reply #25 on: February 25, 2007, 08:55:00 AM »
In regards to the Axis/Beman shafts I try to keep some 2020, 2018 and 2016 shafts or pieces around for footing them. The black shafts are more suited to using the 2020 and 2018 and the camo or woodgrain shafs seem to do well with the 2016. I use 1" pieces and use 2 ton epoxy to keep them in place.
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Offline Huntrdfk

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Re: Footing a carbon
« Reply #26 on: February 25, 2007, 08:57:00 AM »
Any one have any pictures of some of the shafts they've footed?  It would be nice to see a couple to see what they look like......


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Re: Footing a carbon
« Reply #27 on: February 25, 2007, 09:39:00 AM »

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Re: Footing a carbon
« Reply #28 on: February 25, 2007, 10:09:00 AM »
Thanks Steve.

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Offline Mark in SC

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Re: Footing a carbon
« Reply #29 on: February 25, 2007, 06:44:00 PM »
What, me worry?

Offline benny

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Re: Footing a carbon
« Reply #30 on: February 25, 2007, 08:02:00 PM »
Goldtip wood grain 35/55=2216,55/75=2215.

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Offline Dan Worden

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Re: Footing a carbon
« Reply #31 on: February 25, 2007, 08:24:00 PM »
Ok you have most of the basics (length, glue type)

For shaft size/diameters. Measure the OD of your carbon, take that number to the "Arrow Fitting Charts" here (TG) in the How To section. Pick your correct AL size, cut to your desired length. Now for the square edge that will hit your riser. Take a reloaders deburring tool and chamfer the beack edge so it makes a nice smooth transition.

Offline Shawn Leonard

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Re: Footing a carbon
« Reply #32 on: February 25, 2007, 09:04:00 PM »
So a 2114 will work on my blackhawk vapors the black version of carbonwoods? Shawn
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Offline Shawn Leonard

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Re: Footing a carbon
« Reply #33 on: February 25, 2007, 09:06:00 PM »
So a 2114 will work on my blackhawk vapors the black version of carbonwoods? Shawn
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Offline Missouri CK

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Re: Footing a carbon
« Reply #34 on: February 25, 2007, 11:28:00 PM »
I'll throw one more issue into this thread.  I've repaired some carbon shafts that I busted the ends but the rest of the shaft remained intact.  As it was they was useless to me, but I put a three inch piece of aluminum arrow over the tip end of the carbon.  I suddenly turned my junker pile of carbons back into usable arrow shafts again.  I've shot several of them and none of them have given me any problems.  Not sure how the footed end changes my arrow flight as I have not bare tuned any of these shafts.  I suspect their is a difference and will take some tuning to get them perfect.

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Offline Emmons

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Re: Footing a carbon
« Reply #35 on: March 02, 2007, 05:31:00 PM »
I footed some Beaman MFX Classic 400's with a 1-1/2" section of a 2018 legacy.  There turned out nice and the shafts seem to fly better.  Not sure if it is from the added weight or the taper affect.  I am drawing the footing up onto the shelf rest.  I tapered the back of the footing and I can not feel it going up on the shelf at all.  It remains to be seen if the front of the arrow will break now when I hit a rock or something.  I will post a pic later.

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Offline Emmons

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Re: Footing a carbon
« Reply #36 on: March 04, 2007, 04:34:00 PM »
Here is a photo of my footing.  These arrows just seem to fly better with the footing.  I will be footing all my carbons from now one.
 
 

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