Bareshaft Tuning, Opinions Please...

[BigRonHuntAlot]

Here is a pic of an arrow group at 15 yards out of a 56 inch, 52 pound Crow Mag at 27 inch draw. I shot off the ground and the arrows weigh around 570 grains fletched. Is this what I am looking for with a bare shaft?  What do you have to say?


 

[R H Clark]

That looks good.Don't know what you mean by shoot off the ground though.Unless you just mean you werent in a tree stand.

That should be fine as is, just depends to what extreme you want to take it.If you want to go to the next level just move back a few more yards.I usually go to about 30 yards but I'm a little obsessive.

[BigRonHuntAlot]

Yes, I shot off the ground and not in a tree stand on this target. I havent thought about bareshafting out of a stand before and it may be something I try later. My broadheads seem to fly true . I have never had a problem on game animals... but have had some target panic problems or lack of concentration recently... Just going back over some tuning options and looking for advice.  Thanks

[Don Stokes]

Fletch them up and shoot! That's plenty good enough.

[Cherokee Scout]

The shaft is slightly weak (if you are right hand). If you put on a broadhead, it will probably be a little weaker. Because the broadhead is longer than the field point, it will shoot weaker. This also assumes that you had the same result more than one shot.

[BigRonHuntAlot]

John,  Yes, I am right handed. I had the same result over multiple shot sessions but had a few that were bareshaft nock right but a questionable release problem with some of those too. Fingers a bit sore LOL, Ranges varied from 15 to 22 yards with different results. Most of the bareshafts were with the group of fletched arrows with some differences in left or right nock positions. These are Arrow Dynamics Arrows and I am shooting a 200 grain tip. Will try again in a day or two.

Thanks for all of the replys...

Ron

[Van/TX]

Looks like the fletched arrows are flying pretty good.  Why not just mount a broadhead on one and give it a try.  That's the bottom line   ...Van

[A.S.]

Ron, I'd say if may just need to shorten them another 1/4" to 1/2" and that should put you right on the money.


Allen

[fingers]

Ron,I think you are so close to perfect that you don't have to worry about it. If there was anything at all that I look for and you didn't have was that the bareshaft should hit an iota lower than the fletched shafts. The only reason I say that is that you gain a little more forgiveness by being slightly nock high and I mean slightly. A 1 to 1/2" difference is all I'm talking about and you are so close it might not even matter. I learned this from a world champion compound finger shooter. You can't argue with success. Otherwise I wouldn't touch a thing, not a thing.

[fingers]

Originally posted by fingers:
Ron,I think you are so close to perfect that you don't have to worry about it. If there was anything at all that I look for and you didn't have was that the bareshaft should hit an iota lower than the fletched shafts. The only reason I say that is that you gain a little more forgiveness by being slightly nock high and I mean slightly. A 1 to 1 1/2" difference is all I'm talking about and you are so close it might not even matter. I learned this from a world champion compound finger shooter. He liked to have his bare shaft hit slightly low and slightly to the right of his fletched shafts(RH shooter). You can't argue with success. Otherwise I wouldn't touch a thing, not a thing.

[fingers]

[WidowEater]

the bare shaft may look weak, but put fletching on and it will stiffen up slightly,  

everything looks good.

[BigRonHuntAlot]

Thanks for the input Guys.  I will test again in a few days and see if I get any different results at longer range.  What is the recommended range for bareshaft testing?  I know I am getting good flight with the fletched shafts but for the first time I am trying to get the perfect setup.  I have read and read and forgot alot of it and things seem to change over the years. I wish I could go out and shoot and not think about things so much like I used too. LOL  I think it is a focus/follow through issue. Thanks Again     I need some fur to shoot through...  

[R.V.T.B.]

Ron,

I generally try and get my bows bare shaft tuned out to about 20-maybe 30 yards. I have found over the years that if I get my bow tuned where it tosses a bare shaft perfectly I have some minor problems with my broadhead tipped arrows flying weak. I generally try and tune where my bare shaft is a touch on the stiff side and then I have good results with my broadheads and field points flying good and grouping together. From the photo it looks to me like you bare shaft is flying a bit weak. You might want to trim a little off of the shaft or back off on the point weight just a tad to stiffen it up. I think you will have better results with your broadheads then.

[Don Stokes]

I do it at 5-10 yards. When they're straight at that distance, I'm good to go. I get it just a fudge nock high, barely enough to notice. My broadheads shoot exactly like my field points doing it this way.

Feathers will compensate for enough that you don't have to be ultra precise. When you're in the field, your shots will have some variation in them anyway, and it is possible to be just a bit overboard in trying to achieve perfection. The feathers are there for a reason.

[JEFF B]

just fletch em and shoot em bro i have seen ya shoot. so i dont think ya have a problem at all.  

[Gene Hall]

Looks close enough to me, but I'd shorten the shaft a touch to make them stiffer.  I'm a big fan of bare shaft tuning.

[larry]

can you shoot a group that size at 20-25 yards? I wouldn't change a thing until you moved back to that range and see what happens. you may find that the arrows are to weak, or you may not.

when I'm tuning arrows to a bow, it's a couple week process for me. If your release isn't real clean, or your bow arm moves some, you're not going to know what you have. that's why I like to do it over a two to three week period. After the first couple of weeks, I'll still shoot a couple fletched and a bare shaft at distances out to 40 yards, until I'm sure it's as good as I can get it. Then I'll shoot some field tips and broadheads.  If everything still seems good, that's when I'll cut the rest of my arrows and fletch them up.

[crookedwoody]

the better the tuning will help you when it rains and your feathers are wet.try a hair shorter if you have enough arrow.good luck

[James Wrenn]

Untill I had them flying right at a longer range I would not change anything.You need to shoot at twice that distance before you go to cutting anything.jmo