Gonna try some carbons

[SirRobin77]

Ok how do you figure how heavy of a carbon arrow to go with when shootin a trad bow with carbon arrow? How many grains per pound that is?
Matt

[B M A]

Give some more information.  Type of bow, weight, draw length, type of string material.  How heavy a point do you want to shoot.

[SirRobin77]

61# @ my 31" draw,Bear recurve 100grn point

[Rick P]

Not an expert but I have always used the 10 grn/# formula. For example I shoot a gold tip 5575 at 30 inches long that gives me a shaft wight of 270grns. I add 10 inches of 5grn/in internal sleeving (footing)to produce a  weight FOC arrow, bringing the weight to 320. Add a 150grn broad head, 470grns, and fletchings and your real close to the 500 grn target for my 50# recurve.

Might try a 7595 full length,352 grns. Add 10 inches of 10 grn/in sleeving, 452. And tip with a 145grn head, 597.

[B M A]

With your long draw and the weight you are shooting I would recommend Gold Tip 75/95, Carbon Express Heritage in a 350, or other brands of carbons with a spine deflection of .300

Brock

[Danny Rowan]

Matt,

AD Trad Heavies will work great out of your bow. Get them with 100 gr brass insert and leave them full length put a 200 gr head on there and you will be fine. IMHO the AD carbons are the best there is, Carbon Tech Rhinos run a close second. Expensive but they are the best.

Danny

[SirRobin77]

Where can you get inserts? Do they have to be ordered? Cost?

[PastorSteveHill]

SirRobin 77   I think the Gold tip 7595 will be a better choice. Looks like you'll have to leave them near full length.  The gold tip 7595 ia a stiffer shaft than the Carbon Expresss 350.

[Charlie Lamb]

Of all the Carbon shafts out there, I'd have to say the AD heavies are the easiest to tune...they'll shoot from most anything as is.

Any of the rest will require "fine tuning" to get the best from them. You may find your 100 grain tip to be too light in the tuning process.

Be flexible.

[SirRobin77]

Im just lost . When i shot a compound i shot a 450grn arrow with a 70lbs draw. Why does the arrow have to be so heavy with a trad bow vs. a compound? Can i not shoot a 450grn arrow in a 61 # recurve? I humble myself before you guys.
Matt

[fyrfyter43]

That's only about 7.3 grains per pound. You could shoot it, but your bow probably would be loud and have a good deal of handshock, and you could risk damaging your bow. Many bowyers won't warranty a bow shooting arrows lighter than 8 grains per pound of draw weight.

There are alot of benefits to a heavier arrow (even out of a wheelie bow), including a quieter bow and much greater penetration, with all else being equal.

[Mike Bolin]

SirRobin77-your arrow doesn't HAVE to be that heavy, but with a heavier arrow...9+ grains of arrow weight to pound of bow weight at your draw...your bow will be quieter, have less hand shock and if everything is tuned correctly, you'll get better penetration. I just finished up a practice session with a friend shooting a 70# compound and 435 grain arrows. His first couple of shots actualy scared me they were so much louder than I am used to. I dropped down in bow weight (due to some nerve damge issues) to
48# and I am using the same arrows that I shot from my 58# bow. Just had to up the point weight a bit...o.k. alot, and they were ready to go. Good luck! Mike