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Author Topic: Wearing out edge of arrow rest...??  (Read 338 times)

Online AlanF

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Wearing out edge of arrow rest...??
« on: September 27, 2008, 01:10:00 PM »
I've had my Horne's takedown Brush bow since July.  It is 60" 45#@27" (my draw length).  Brace height is 7 & 3/8" as recommended by Mark.  Nock point is at 1/2" above center.  Arrows are 29" AD Trad Lites with 200gr heads.  I have gone through one arrow rest (soft side of velcro) and I'm about half through a second.  They are wearing out on the very outer edge and it is taking less than 75 arrows to see some significant wear.  It has in fact worn some of the finish off the bow right where the rest ends.  What is happening and what can I do to correct it?  Thanks for any help.

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Re: Wearing out edge of arrow rest...??
« Reply #1 on: September 27, 2008, 01:35:00 PM »
What do your feathers look like? Either them or a spine issue....any noise at the shot? Im sure more knowing people will come along and fix you right up.
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Re: Wearing out edge of arrow rest...??
« Reply #2 on: September 27, 2008, 01:52:00 PM »
My feathers are looking good as far as I can tell.  They are 5.5" Highback shield cut.  If there is any wear on them I am not experienced enough to spot it.  Thanks.
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Re: Wearing out edge of arrow rest...??
« Reply #3 on: September 27, 2008, 02:08:00 PM »
Raise your nock point.  Start at 5/8" above center and go down from there.  All my nock points are 5/8" above center, anything lower don't work for me.   The shafts may be a bit stiff as well, but start with the nock point.

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Re: Wearing out edge of arrow rest...??
« Reply #4 on: September 27, 2008, 02:25:00 PM »
I bet you will find a wear streak on your arrows in front of your fletch at about 4:00 ( for RH)looking from the rear of the shaft oriented like you would shoot it. I have gotten the same thing. In my case I think it was arrows being too stiff.

"5/8" above center"  center of what?

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Re: Wearing out edge of arrow rest...??
« Reply #5 on: September 27, 2008, 02:31:00 PM »
Remember the human part of traditional archery. I have the same type of rest wear. Never even thought of it much. Although when I don't "push and pull" during a shot my bow sounds loud. All above input may be right but most of the time, IMO it's just us not being machine like.

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Re: Wearing out edge of arrow rest...??
« Reply #6 on: September 27, 2008, 02:37:00 PM »
Let's say 5/8" above LEVEL for those who didn't understand.
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Re: Wearing out edge of arrow rest...??
« Reply #7 on: September 27, 2008, 02:54:00 PM »
If you are using a bow square, it is very clearly marked so you know when you are 5/8" above "square", which is the same thing as being that distance above "level" or "center" (where the height of the rest would "center" on the string). Just a matter of semantics. As long as we all know the terms we are saying the same thing. And 5/8" is generally where I put the bottom of my upper nock set too -- I don't use a second, lower nock set unless I am using serving or dental floss for the nock sets.

Even if you put your nock set at 5/8" above square, leave it loose enough that you can screw it up and down on the serving until you achieve the best arrow flight. Then get some different weight field points and try changing those to see whether you can get better flight as you weaken or stiffen the spine. I would try a heavier field point and see if making the arrow spine weaker helps. If you notice a difference, use various weights to dial in the spine. This assumes you want to keep using the same arrows.

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Re: Wearing out edge of arrow rest...??
« Reply #8 on: September 27, 2008, 09:14:00 PM »
I bet you are plucking the string. Make sure your string hand comes straight bak at the release or kind of falls away and down yet straight back, you will notice a difference. Shawn
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Re: Wearing out edge of arrow rest...??
« Reply #9 on: September 27, 2008, 10:17:00 PM »
You do have some tuning or form issues, but with wear on the rest that you have described I think your arrows are over spined.  Good luck.

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Re: Wearing out edge of arrow rest...??
« Reply #10 on: September 27, 2008, 11:34:00 PM »
What Stringdancer said but you may need to start even higher. I had a Horn Ridgerunner once and the nocking point had to be almost 3/4" high in order to shoot properly. Almost couldn't make myself move it that high but once I did the arrows flew like darts, my groups tightened up, and the wear on the outer edge of the rest stopped.

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Re: Wearing out edge of arrow rest...??
« Reply #11 on: September 27, 2008, 11:51:00 PM »
Had the same problem at one time i switched to left wing feathers and solved problem . They say it wont matter but it did for me .      


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Re: Wearing out edge of arrow rest...??
« Reply #12 on: September 28, 2008, 12:49:00 PM »
Thanks guys.  I will start with raising the nock point and go from there.  Will try to follow up with what works.  Alan
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Re: Wearing out edge of arrow rest...??
« Reply #13 on: September 28, 2008, 06:09:00 PM »
Wear on the outside of the shelf is caused by incorrect brace height, too stiff an arrow or incorrect placement of the nock point on the string.  Usually, it is a too stiff arrow

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Re: Wearing out edge of arrow rest...??
« Reply #14 on: September 28, 2008, 07:40:00 PM »
I had the same problem.  I added 40 grains up front and all is well now.

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Re: Wearing out edge of arrow rest...??
« Reply #15 on: September 29, 2008, 05:57:00 AM »
Are you left or right handed?
Same thing happens to mine. Horne Longbow. I'm left handed and shooting right helical fletching. The leading end of the fletch is rolled down below center line so that is where it rides and causes the rest material to wear off. I have since switched to left helical for this reason.

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Re: Wearing out edge of arrow rest...??
« Reply #16 on: September 29, 2008, 05:11:00 PM »
Likely arrow is too stiff (overspine).

I would recommend reading up on the tuning directions as outlined on A&H Archery web page    http://www.acsbows.com/bowtuning.htmland   and then starting from square one.  

You will make yourself cross-eyed and ready for a straight-jacket if you try guessing and fiddling with form/brace height/nock height, etc..  At least I did until I found a logical process (using objective data) to tune my bow.

Good luck!

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