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Author Topic: Primitive Bunny  (Read 597 times)

Offline gatorgar

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Primitive Bunny
« on: November 07, 2008, 09:58:00 AM »
Yesterday afternoon I decided to pull out a selfbow that I got from Duck'n to see if I could hit the broadside of a barn with it.  I had shot about 15 arrows out of it when I finally figured out how to shoot it accurately.  Seems I need a severe cant to keep my arrows where I want them.  Anyways, as I was walking to my target to retrieve my arrow I saw a little bunny feeding about 50 yrds in the field.  I walked over to my truck and pulled out a homemade arrow tipped with an alligator gar scale.  It is a full lenght P.O. cedar with natural feathers that I collected of the ground and the scale comes from a 7' gar that I took a few years ago.  There is no glue on the arrow, the feathers were eyeballed into position and tied on using fly-tiers thread.  To get a little bit more foward balance, wrapped the tip with 100gr of lead wire, from my fly-tieing kit.  The arrow come in at about 575gr and is accurate to about 15yrd with 18" of penetration into a block target.  
I picked up the arrow and started stalking/walking up to the bunny and at 10yrd I drew on him, picked my spot and released.  The arrow flew true and hit behind the last rib and exited tight behind the opposite shoulder dropping him dead.  The arrow went in all the way to the fletching.  If I can figure out a way to sharpen the scales properly, I will end up trying them for javalina later this season.
 
 
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Offline blueline

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Re: Primitive Bunny
« Reply #1 on: November 07, 2008, 10:05:00 AM »
Very nice indeed!!!
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Re: Primitive Bunny
« Reply #2 on: November 07, 2008, 10:51:00 AM »
Nice.... Wish Jersey would let Us use stone points.

Offline MI_Bowhunter

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Re: Primitive Bunny
« Reply #3 on: November 07, 2008, 11:04:00 AM »
Very cool!!   Good shooting.
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Offline JDP12

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Re: Primitive Bunny
« Reply #4 on: November 07, 2008, 11:09:00 AM »
excellent shot, nice heads as well
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Re: Primitive Bunny
« Reply #5 on: November 07, 2008, 11:46:00 AM »
That gar scale point is tool cool. Nice placement too.

Offline Benny Nganabbarru

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Re: Primitive Bunny
« Reply #6 on: November 07, 2008, 11:04:00 PM »
Too deadly!
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Offline deadpool

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Re: Primitive Bunny
« Reply #7 on: November 08, 2008, 12:27:00 AM »
I never thought a fish scale can be an arrow point!
just awesome!!

Offline Chris Surtees

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Re: Primitive Bunny
« Reply #8 on: November 08, 2008, 01:23:00 AM »
:thumbsup:     :goldtooth:

Offline Deadsmple

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Re: Primitive Bunny
« Reply #9 on: November 08, 2008, 04:46:00 PM »
Awesome!!
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Re: Primitive Bunny
« Reply #10 on: November 08, 2008, 06:57:00 PM »
awesome well done   :thumbsup:
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Offline Sarah

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Re: Primitive Bunny
« Reply #11 on: November 09, 2008, 12:43:00 AM »
cool!  :)

Offline david_lewis93

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Re: Primitive Bunny
« Reply #12 on: November 09, 2008, 07:00:00 AM »
If I rember my history correctly the Tonkawa   and Karonkawa Indians on the coast of Texas and Louisiana  used gar scales and shark teeth for points on their arrows with extremly good results. According to several historical reports and official documents from the early setlements on the Texas coast there werent many stone points to be seen in or around Matagorda and the surrounding local.
Way good job there too gatorgar!!!

Offline gatorgar

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Re: Primitive Bunny
« Reply #13 on: November 09, 2008, 09:54:00 AM »
Thanks guys.  David...that little history lesson you just gave is what made me decided to try the scales.  Just thought it would be neat to do something that I am guessing has not been done in a long while.  I was able to get the arrow to spin true now I just need to figure out a way to sharpen them.  My experiments have shown that a single bevel can produce a nice edge.  Little more testing and hopefully I can figure it out.
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62" 53#@28"
Easton XX75 400   250gr up front
Have you noticed that the times you don't get nothing while hunting, are usually the most fun you've ever had.

Offline david_lewis93

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Re: Primitive Bunny
« Reply #14 on: November 09, 2008, 10:08:00 AM »
GAtor  from a couple of examples of the scale points I saw they were scraped to a single bevel probable with a sharp piece of shell or sand stone .The Comance and other horse mobile tribes would sometimes trade meat and hides for points .If I rember they (Kronkawa,,Tonkawas) would trade fish to them too..they aslo used shark skin for sandpaper like abrasives to sharpen ans smooth theis utensils and weapons...
Dang!, I hate when the old memory cells kick back into gear!!

Offline gatorgar

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Re: Primitive Bunny
« Reply #15 on: November 09, 2008, 10:23:00 AM »
Thanks for the ideas David.  I used a belt sander to bevel the edges and and trying different materials to get a finer edge.  So far I have tried sandstone and steel wool.  I just need to find something that will give me an edge that I know will cut up some tissue.  Maybe by this coming weekend I'll get it to where I feel confident enough to try them on big game.
Alex
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Easton XX75 400   250gr up front
Have you noticed that the times you don't get nothing while hunting, are usually the most fun you've ever had.

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Re: Primitive Bunny
« Reply #16 on: November 09, 2008, 12:38:00 PM »
Congrats  :thumbsup:
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Re: Primitive Bunny
« Reply #17 on: November 09, 2008, 08:23:00 PM »
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