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How to quiet a loud bow??

Started by Bob B., November 17, 2008, 07:58:00 AM

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Bob B.

Well, I received my Leon Stewart Slammer on Saturday.  It is simply beautiful.  It also draws so smooth, it really does not feel like 60 pounds to me.  It spits a 600 grain arrow effortlessly, fast flat with athority!!!  It goes where I aim, that is good too, but man is it loud!!  I can shoot on the deck and my family can hear it from in the house!  It is a take down slammer, good mass weight and nothing is loose on it.  It has woolie stying silencers and rubber spider legs, but still the "ponk" is there at the shot.  Any suggestions?

Bob.
66"  Osage Royale    57lbs@29
68"  Shrew Hill      49lbs@29
68"  Deathwish       51lbs@29
68"  Morning Star    55lbs@29
68"  Misty Dawn      55lbs@29

ranger 3

Try playing with the brace height. Might take a high one.
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HATCHCHASER

Brace height, nock point, nock fit of arrows, type of string material.  I have never had a bow I couldn't get quiet.  Some just take more effort.
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Bob B.

Ranger 3, I forgot to mention, I did play  abit with brace height, Leon says 7 inches from the top of the rest.  I have adjusted it to 7 1/4 with no change in volume or pitch. It is hard for me to figure why this is so loud.

Bob.
66"  Osage Royale    57lbs@29
68"  Shrew Hill      49lbs@29
68"  Deathwish       51lbs@29
68"  Morning Star    55lbs@29
68"  Misty Dawn      55lbs@29

hunt it

Bob,

You might try 250 or 300gr up front additional weight should do the trick as well.
hunt it

wingnut

is the rest showing any wear?  The arrow tail might be wacking it if the spine is a little high.

Try a little more tip weight.

Mike
Mike Westvang

Bob B.

Well, I shoot 250 up front, so I guess that is not hte problem.  So, I called Leon and he said the string is the culpit.  The bow has a TS1 sting rather than fast flight.  So I guess that should make a big difference.  I will weight and see.  He is sending me one this week.

Bob.
66"  Osage Royale    57lbs@29
68"  Shrew Hill      49lbs@29
68"  Deathwish       51lbs@29
68"  Morning Star    55lbs@29
68"  Misty Dawn      55lbs@29

Raven

Try putting it in the corner for a few days on "Time Out", then see if it wants to continue to be so loud.  :thumbsup:  

Raven >>>>-------->  :archer:

barebow

Bob,
I'd be interested to know what you discover when you go from a TS1 string to fastflight. Please post the results.
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Apex Predator

Send it to me, and you'll never hear it again.  Problem solved, and by the way, no charge this time.  :)
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maxwell

Leon sends his bows ready to shoot with strings set with silencers and nock tied. I have shot alot of his bows and they were and are quiet. I tried d97 and he said bad idea use the ff and it works great. I do keep a little higher brace height 7.5".

Bill

tradwannabe

800 grain arrows( i hope you hunt large elk, moose, alaskan browns, or sasquatch.), 2 pairs of bow hush silencers, banana fletch, maybe change string-try 450 plus, all the usual tuning tricks.

Night Wing

Even with 250 grains up front, a 600 grain arrow shot from a 60# bow is just 10 grains per pound. That's heavy, but not a real heavy weight arrow in my opinion. I shoot 13 grains per pound and both my recurve and my longbow are almost dead silent upon arrow release. Incidentally; I shoot aluminum arrows with a 150 grain point weight coupled with a 30 grain insert for a total weight up front of 180 grains. My string is Dyna97 with a pair of rubber cat whiskers attached.
Blacktail TD Recurve: 66", 42# @ 30". Arrow: 32", 2212. PW: 75 Grains. AW: 421 Grains. GPP: 10.02
Blacktail TD Recurve: 66", 37# @ 30". Arrow: 32", 2212. PW: 75 Grains. AW: 421 Grains. GPP: 11.37

hunt it

My grizly sticks with 300gr up front weigh 800grs and I shoot them out of 64# bow all the time. Most trad hunters should not be worried about trajectory in my opinion, it's penetration most should worry about. Lets face it majority of shots 20yrds and under and good percentage downwards out of tree. Try some 8125 if you want a good fast, quiet string material with very little stretch.
hunt it

traditional beagle

I don't think you should have to use a bunch of weight to quiet a bow. Thats like buying a truck and putting a ton of rock in the bed to make it ride the way you like. If you know what I mean. Keep playing with brace height, silencer location, nock height, strings. The combination is in there somewhere.

Night Wing

I shoot a heavy arrow because I want maximum penetration from the poundage I shoot. The heavy arrow that helps make the bow quieter is just an added "bonus".
Blacktail TD Recurve: 66", 42# @ 30". Arrow: 32", 2212. PW: 75 Grains. AW: 421 Grains. GPP: 10.02
Blacktail TD Recurve: 66", 37# @ 30". Arrow: 32", 2212. PW: 75 Grains. AW: 421 Grains. GPP: 11.37

Bob B.

"I'd be interested to know what you discover when you go from a TS1 string to fastflight. Please post the results.", posted by Barebow.

Well, My new string arrived form Leon, with rubber cat whiskers installed.  I am still tuning mind you, and playing with knock height.  However, so far with 7 1/8 to 7 1/16 inch brace height shooting a 600 grain arrow at 59 pounds it is MUCH quieter!  I put on an extra set of cat whiskers and it is Real Quiet!  If I shoot a 700 grain arrow (11.8 gpi) the bow is almost as close to as quiet as my Dwyer "D" shaped Longbow.  The slammer does really spit an arrow with absolutely no hand shock. Now that it is quiet it is a dream to shoot.  I just wanted to update anyone who read this post earlier.  The Slammer is a real quiet bow and is real fast as well.  Plus it is gorgeous to look at!  I may have it ready to hunt with by late bow season.  

Bob.
66"  Osage Royale    57lbs@29
68"  Shrew Hill      49lbs@29
68"  Deathwish       51lbs@29
68"  Morning Star    55lbs@29
68"  Misty Dawn      55lbs@29

Bjorn

Take a look at the thread about "OL Adcock's 4 strand D97 strings"-the big deal there is a much quieter bow with ordinary wool silencers-just two of them.


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