Broke my tips!?!?

[Soilarch]

My arrows haven't developed a preference for the bag target yet...and every once in a while one of them tries to eat the barn.  My GT fieldpoints are handling it like champs but these "others" aren't. I have two arrows now that have the threading  of fieldpoints stuck in them.


Any great ideas on how to get them out?  I was having a bear of time keeping the inserts themselves in the shaft...then I switched to super glue GEL and they hold like rocks, but heating isn't an option.


Best I've thought of is to cross my fingers and put a small dab of super glue on the end of another field tip and try to spin them out.

[Outwest]

How are you breaking the threaded part of the fieldpoint off in the inserts?
Have you tried heating the super glue?
Might just have to cut them off an inch.
If you are breaking them off in the barn you need to unscrew the shaft from the point and donate the point to the barn.

John

[Soilarch]

That is my future plan.  I've never broken the "other" brand before.  In fact the one characteristic that both points have is that they are much wider than the actual shaft themselves yet neck back down to the shaft diameter before they meet the insert/shaft.

I found through several years of "stump-shooting" with a compound that the only prayer you have of removing your arrows from stumps, barns, things of plywood, mine conveyor belts, and certain metal 'unmentionables' is to make a bigger hole than the shaft.  The "green-sleeve" tips are the "others" I keep referring to...I've forgotten who makes them.  They are overpriced and aren't easier to pull from targets as they are advertised BUT they've saved me many an arrow over the years.  The ones that broke were several years old and have been "tortured" like this before.

Best I can figure is that these new inserts to mate-up with the fieldtips as well and leave a weak point.

I am breaking them off in the barn.  I thought I had mastered the art of 'gently' wiggling back and forth in 4 directions then around in a circle until a hard-fast arrow would just slip right out.  So much for that theory, it served me well while it lasted.

[Pete W]

Find a drill bit  slightly smaller than the size of the shaft inside, drop it in the shaft, and swing the shaft like a slide hammer.
 This will knock out the old insert, but be carefull, it will come out like a bullet.
 It mat take a few swings but it will eventualy drive the insert out.

Pete

[Soilarch]

As dangerous as that is, (I reload ammunition and have a "hammer" bullet puller, so I know exactly what you're talking about) I think I'll try that.


Does anybody know HOW hot you can get the carbon shafts before you damage them.  Is it safe as long as the paint and finish don't start changing?  I'll try it first without heat but even when applying heat only to a tip...I don't want to hurt the shafts.

They are full-length shafts right now but I'm still learning and settling on an exact DL...don't know if I have a full inch to spare.

[koger]

Heres an old gunsmithing trick, put the arrow in a vise, positon the handle of a soldering iron on a sandag with the tip touching the broken thread, another small sandbag or like weight on top of the handle, turn on and leave 10-15 minutes. Cant remember how mand small broken gunscrews i have removed like that over the years, the super glue should soften right up and you can pull the inser then, not hurt your arrow! hope this helps, Sam.

[TomMcDonald]

[TomMcDonald]

Supaglue is ok to heat up.. Just use a cigarette lighter then get the thread out with pliers.