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Author Topic: Rambling here! 'Traditional' and 'trust' even in trade/buy?  (Read 748 times)

Offline JEFF B

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Re: Rambling here! 'Traditional' and 'trust' even in trade/buy?
« Reply #20 on: December 07, 2008, 07:41:00 PM »
well most of ya know me if i say i am sending somthing then its on its way. as this is the only way i deal and that is straight up no crap get it done. and i expect the same from anyone on here. jeff
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Re: Rambling here! 'Traditional' and 'trust' even in trade/buy?
« Reply #21 on: December 08, 2008, 04:30:00 PM »
I also tend to take a person at their word, haven't been burned here and really like this community. If I say I'll get a MO out to you you can bank on it getting there, even if its by snail mail. Like Jeff says-staight up and no crap.
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Offline 30coupe

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Re: Rambling here! 'Traditional' and 'trust' even in trade/buy?
« Reply #22 on: December 08, 2008, 05:02:00 PM »
I'm with Jeff and Tom on this. If I make a deal, it's done. The money or the item will be on its way. I also agree with KSDan, I'd like to be able to do a transaction where the item and the funds cross paths on the way. Seems like the risks are pretty equal.

I see Dave's point though about the ones who join and head to the classified section to buy or sell something. I have kind of shied away from the sellers who "can't send pictures" of what they are selling. While as Dave pointed out, sellers usually have the item, most of the names that appear on the banned list in the classifieds are there for not sending items that were paid for. If the seller can't provide pictures that look like they were taken at home (not a stock advertising picture), I just keep looking. I don't mean to say that anyone who doesn't have pictures is dishonest; it's just one way I try to cover myself.

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Re: Rambling here! 'Traditional' and 'trust' even in trade/buy?
« Reply #23 on: December 08, 2008, 05:09:00 PM »
Years ago, everything was done face to face, now, with computers, we are selling to people hundreds or thousands of miles away.......temptation and opportunity can lead to dishonesty.
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Re: Rambling here! 'Traditional' and 'trust' even in trade/buy?
« Reply #24 on: December 08, 2008, 07:24:00 PM »
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Usually when I sell/trade something and the buyer tells me the money is on the way, I take their word and immediately mail the item. I realize it is a risk, but so is the money that the buyer has sent
That is the way I've always done it as well - but my last deal went wrong for a Fedora LB. Buyer said he sent MO, so I sent the bow as always. MO never showed - bow did.
"Buyer" did return a couple pm's and one call - claimed he would have the PO start a trace on the MO - have to wait 6 weeks. Have not heard a word in over 2 months - no return of emails or pm and phone is disconnected.

Sad, but all future sales by me to anyone I don't personally know will be Paypal only or no deal - we both have some recourse that way.

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Re: Rambling here! 'Traditional' and 'trust' even in trade/buy?
« Reply #25 on: December 08, 2008, 07:53:00 PM »
I've sold, bought or traded at least a dozen bows on this site and have never been burned.  Nor have I burned anyone else.  I always offer a money back guarantee if the buyer doesn't like what I'm selling for any reason.  

On trades, we've usually mailed at the same time.  When I buy, I send the money, then the seller sends the bow.  I do it the same way when I sell.  Likewise on lesser items.  I have had two folks tell me the check was in the mail when it wasn't.  Luckily, in those instances I was holding the item until payment was received.  Quite rare, but these weren't new members.  Regardless, it won't stop me from continuing to trade via this site.  99.9% of the folks on this site are honest.  Can't do any better than that.

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Re: Rambling here! 'Traditional' and 'trust' even in trade/buy?
« Reply #26 on: December 08, 2008, 10:40:00 PM »
I haven't sold anything on Tradgang, but have purchased (seems like I need to buy rather than to sell).  Good experiences with purchases. Do your homework/backgroud checks as much as possible.  I'm from the old school where a promise or handshake is a person's word.  A phone conversation with someone can reveal much.  Tradgang is great!
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Re: Rambling here! 'Traditional' and 'trust' even in trade/buy?
« Reply #27 on: December 08, 2008, 11:18:00 PM »
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Originally posted by Sipsey River:
Years ago, everything was done face to face, now, with computers, we are selling to people hundreds or thousands of miles away.......temptation and opportunity can lead to dishonesty.
This line of thinking ran thru my mind when I started reading this thread. Face it, crooks are crooks and they will spend $10 of effort to steal a $1. I have never been burned here and honestly think some of the people who hang here are top notch. But, I have been burned on other net deals elsewhere. I can get a pretty good read on somebody before entering into a deal. The internet has opened a big avenue for crooks to try to rip folks off. If your dealing with someone you don't know, cover your bases and keep all exchanged info aka: paper trail. I agree that it sucks and it shouldn't be that way but that doesn't change the fact that there are creeps everywhere these days looking to make a quick buck. Use your commen sense when entering into sizable faceless transaction's.

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Re: Rambling here! 'Traditional' and 'trust' even in trade/buy?
« Reply #28 on: December 09, 2008, 11:08:00 AM »
unfortunately, i sold (so i thought) 23 autum orange 2116 arrows and communication was good. I waited for the cheque(thank goodness) but it never came. sent e-mails but no response. repeated e-mails-nothing. I feel bad because i turned down others that were interested. I don't know if he died or what.
At least i still have the arrows. big waste of time though.
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Re: Rambling here! 'Traditional' and 'trust' even in trade/buy?
« Reply #29 on: December 09, 2008, 11:13:00 AM »
further, it was Dan Frien-(one eye)[email protected] that never replied.(hate to do this to you Dan, but all you had to say was that you were no longer interested).
Rob

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Re: Rambling here! 'Traditional' and 'trust' even in trade/buy?
« Reply #30 on: December 09, 2008, 02:45:00 PM »
All my dealings on Tradgang and the other site have been great but in the real and buisness world and E*** buyer beware. It would be great to have it the way it use to be , milk bottles on the front porch with the money underneath, but sadly those days are gone. I have no problem sending my cash first with regulars on this site. I still go by someones word and if the cash is sent I'll send the item.Off my two Trad sites I'm just the opposite.
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Re: Rambling here! 'Traditional' and 'trust' even in trade/buy?
« Reply #31 on: December 09, 2008, 03:47:00 PM »
I've bought and sold several bows and merchandise on this site and the wall.  This has included deals internationally to Canada and France.  Never a problem.  All my deals have been once funds received items are shipped except one.  I just thought that was the standard practice.  The one exception was on some wool clothing where I let the seller know the check was in the mail and he immediately sent me the goods.  It made me feel good that the guy trusted me that much.  Anyway, great site and I love the classifieds and hope a few losers don't spoil it for the rest of us.
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Re: Rambling here! 'Traditional' and 'trust' even in trade/buy?
« Reply #32 on: December 09, 2008, 04:07:00 PM »
We all must continue to do our part here to insure that this site maintains the pillars of integrity it has been built on.
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Offline Ron B

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Re: Rambling here! 'Traditional' and 'trust' even in trade/buy?
« Reply #33 on: December 09, 2008, 04:15:00 PM »
So far all my dealings on this board have been great! You can see by my member number I have been around a while and have done lots of business. I hope and pray that this will always be. There is a different mind set among the true traditionalists that I hope never changes. I am proud to be a part of such a fine group.  

Happy Holidays and God Bless everyone!

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Re: Rambling here! 'Traditional' and 'trust' even in trade/buy?
« Reply #34 on: December 09, 2008, 11:34:00 PM »
I have had the pleasure of considerable selling and buying here, and over 600 transactions on the Auction site.
When I sell it is 'satisfaction guaranteed or money back', and typically I send or get money first.
I do my homework and urge others to do the same.
Like the sign says:
"In God we trust, others pay cash".

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