Carbon Express

[Bush]

I always hear how much more durable carbon arrows are, but mine seem to break with very limited use.  I have used A/C/E's, A/C/C's, Beman, and now Carbon Express.  It seems that they crack at the point or the nock if they hit anything other than a pillow.  Does anybody have a solution to this?  Footing?

[Aggie1993]

What do you use to glue in the insert?  I had the same problem with hotmelt but swtiched to JB Weld and have no problems. That is with Beman ICS Hunter and CE Heritage Arrows.

[scriv]

I have been using the same 6 Heritage 150's for nearly a year now without breakage.  I have even shot a couple of nocks off.  I use goat tuff to put them together and also use the "standard" nock adapters like three river sells.  I believ this has saved the shafts when I shot the nocks off.  Hope this helps.  

[Cherokee Scout]

Bush, you have to be doing something wrong. Are you using hot melt and heat to install inserts?
Heat will Kill a carbon shaft.
If you can find a shaft tougher than a CX Heritage I would sure like to know what it is. We tested them against a lot of other shafts and I can find none any tougher. I demonstrated one to a customer by shooting it straight into a telephone pole from 4'.

[BMejia]

If you are not cutting them with a high speed saw with a metal carbide disc, they will fray and split. I know from experience! If you shoot enough of them, a $99 arrow saw is a good investment or just take them to the local shop and have them cut.

[Paul Mattson]

I have to agree with Sipsey, something is going wrong for you somewhere.  The only thing that seems to bust a CX for me is a rock.  CX makes one tough shaft.

[jacobsladder]

the only problems ive had with carbons is if you impact point on extemely hard with something...frozen stump , rebar, or cement it will mushroom the insert back into the shaft...

outside of that i think that carbons are by far the most durable shaft out there....

[Zenzele]

I use the Heritage 150's and 250's. I have only had one fail when shot @ point blank (7 paces) into a 3d rebar (holding the target up) other than that I only loose them!    
Sipsy, I use hotmelt on my arrows didnt know any better, do you recomend any genral purpose glue? Should I be buyin the special arrow glue?? Hotmelt has never weakened them befor?!   :confused:   CX Heritage's are tough as nails IMHO.

[Langhorn]

Definitely agree with Sipsey on this topic.  At the SC State shoot there was a competition to all that qualified. It involved one arrow and a huge saw mill blade. Each contestant had to put an arrow through the arbor hole in the saw blade.  Man, you aint never seen the like of arrows breakin!  Well, I licked the blade purdy good and my arrow was surely doomed.  It blew the insert and the nock out of the arrow.  THE ARROW WAS FINE!  While I wouldnt go around shooting arrows like that w\\o really checking them, still shooting that one today.  If you look at daily hunt pics on pg. 24 you will see the arrow, yep, its the red one.  Carbon Express Heritage 350.  Nun Tuffer!

[Jack Whitmire Jr]

I used to ahve the same problems of the nock end and insert end busting until I went to a carbon express Heritage, the toughest carbon made and I shoot the 90's


Jack

[Bush]

I did use hot melt on a couple of them in a pinch, but most of them were with JB Weld.  Maybe the heritages are a little tougher than these Rebels.  Thanks for the tips.