Carbon Express Terminators

[RL]

Does Carbon Express still make the "select" or did they discontinue it? Anybody notice any difference in shooting an arrow with a straightness of .006 compared to .003?

[kadbow]

I don't know about the selects but I see no difference shooting the .006 vs. .003 in the goldtips.

[robtattoo]

As far as I know they've discontinued the select. There's now Terminators & terminator XP. I've been shooting the XP for about 4 months & love 'em! Can't really tell the differnce between the tolerences. Heck, I can't even tell you what .003" looks like  :D

[Allan Hundeby]

I'm so sick of breaking arrows - especially ones I hear rave reviews about.  Perhaps I'm experiencing the reason why they discontinued the Select shafts.  I broke three today... just bareshaft tuning on a round bale!  

After hearing so much "good" about the CX Terminator shafts (though I don't have the 'Hunter's), I'm quite disappointed with these.   :(   Sure, they shoot straight - quick and true, but I keep hitting the arrows along the shafts - especially since they stick in to the target at somewhat of an angle.  That appears to be flaking away a small oval of the outermost layer of the carbon.  Then when I test the shafts before shooting, I hear small "cracks" and "snaps"...  One broke halfway up the shaft as it hit the target, and on another the fibers bubbled on the backside of an oval, so I just snapped the two that looked like trouble.

It reminds me of my older CX300's a couple years ago, though these would split at the insert or at the nock.


Should I try Axis FMJ's or CX Maxima's or Grizzley Stix?  If indeed they're indestructible, I'd be willing to spend for a dozen.

[Dan Worden]

The hunter are far tougher than regular terminators. The "buff tuff" wrap is what makes them tough.

[beachbowhunter]

Allan, your story is a complete mystery. I've shot dozens of CX arrows of all kinds and have never seen that happen during bareshafting or any other kind of shooting.

I don't buy the Selects anymore because you can't tell any difference in flight. I really like the Terminator Lites right now.

[Allan Hundeby]

Thanks for the input, guys.  

Dan, though the outside of these shafts does look different than the CX300's I have, I'm positive the **** auction listed them as being BuffTuff wrapped.  Maybe it was wrong...  I would have got the "Hunters", but I have a hard enough time finding my arrows.     Perhaps I'll try the Terminator Hunter Lites next time 'round.

Any input on the CX Maxima's or the Easton Axis FMJ's?

[Bowspirit]

As far as the Axis FMJ is concerned, you'd really be better of with the regular Axis carbon arrows. They've really got the Axis beat when it comes to durability...

[Tree man]

Allan, My carbon arrow experience is limited-I almost exclusively shoot wood shafts. ...but IMNSHO, bare shaft tuning is enormously overrated. BSing (double entendre intended) is  a route to frustration for most traditional archers shooting off the shelf with a Med. (3 finger) release. Yes yes, I know some very capable archers do it.... but every variation in release is magnified. Magnified to the point that, if you have arrows that are greatly mismatched to your bow you will likely break them or shoot the neighbor's house or something. If they are pretty close to the right spine you will shoot a few that look like they are slightly stiff...then some tht indicate too weak. etc. etc.  90% of us probably need to adjust our tuning a little but 90% of those who need to tweak things ought to do it by watching feathered shafts.Just my opinion (but I KNOW I'm right)  

[JC]

Carbon Express Terminator Hunters are a completely different animal than any other shaft I've tried....they are so durable CE is discontinuing them. The new models "replacing" them are not nearly as durable...good for their sales, bad for stump shooters like me. If it doesn't say Terminator Hunter or Terminator Hunter Select, it's not the shaft famous for it's durability.

You can still get gen-u-wine Terminator Hunter Selects from Lancaster Archery at a GREAT discounted price...while their inventory lasts. I've got 5 doz raw shafts that should last a while.

I shoot mostly Carbon Tech Rhino 55/80's now: not quite as durable as the TH's but a bit stiffer so I can load them a bit heavier and they fly very well out of my bows.