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Author Topic: Heavy F.O.C. and wood arrows?  (Read 384 times)

Offline jonsimoneau

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Heavy F.O.C. and wood arrows?
« on: January 15, 2009, 12:42:00 PM »
I'm going back to shooting wood arrows again. Have not shot them much in the last few years because I have been shooting mostly carbons.
Has anyone experimented with using a heavy F.O.C. with wood arrows?  We all know the benefits of such setups with carbons, but what about with wood?

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Re: Heavy F.O.C. and wood arrows?
« Reply #1 on: January 15, 2009, 12:50:00 PM »
OL described how he gets high FOC with woodies... basically he tapers the point end as normal then drills out the first inch or two of the shaft and adds steel, brass or some other rod.
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Re: Heavy F.O.C. and wood arrows?
« Reply #2 on: January 15, 2009, 12:52:00 PM »
Jon:  There were a couple of threads on this in the past few weeks.  Tapering and footing with a hardwood and using a fairly heavy head, 160 grains or so, will get to about 19% FOC with a 11/32 cedar.  I've also drilled the point ends and inserted metal rods to gain weight.  The woody weights would do the same thing, but don't look as good IMO.  That will get the FOC higher though.

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Re: Heavy F.O.C. and wood arrows?
« Reply #3 on: January 15, 2009, 01:22:00 PM »
I've experimented a good bit with high FOC and woodies and I'm delighted to say it works great.  They take to it very well.

I've used both the Woody Weights and the aluminum screw in point converters coupled with steel adapters and they both work, the woody weights are far less gaudy though IMO.

You'll need more spine of course.  In my bow if I add 20 pounds of spine I can pack over 300 grains up front with fantastic flight.  I'm currently shooting about 10 over typical spine with 225 grains up front.  My bow is not cut past center though, you might need quite a bit more spine if yours is.

Proof is in the shooting but you won't be on a wild goose chase, point loaded woodies work.    :thumbsup:
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Re: Heavy F.O.C. and wood arrows?
« Reply #4 on: January 15, 2009, 01:59:00 PM »
Cool.  I'm going to mess with it.  Orion, I like that idea.  The woody weights also look like a good idea.

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Re: Heavy F.O.C. and wood arrows?
« Reply #5 on: January 15, 2009, 02:13:00 PM »
Yeah, just about from day one I've made most of my arrows (only shoot wood) high FOC. Either with tapering, point weight, footing, or all. Just re-made a set of footed Aspen target arrows into hunting arrows for next season. I used 150gr trade points (w/10-12grs epoxy). FOC is 19%........just what Orion mentioned. ART B

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Re: Heavy F.O.C. and wood arrows?
« Reply #6 on: January 15, 2009, 08:42:00 PM »
I bought a variety pack of the woody weights to try in different weights and they actually are very well made, and work wonderfully easy. I would recommend them to anyone who needs/wants to add weight up front. Much easier to tune with that system rather than drilling and inserting weights into wood. I bought them at GLLI last summer. They really are neat and machined perfectly.

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Re: Heavy F.O.C. and wood arrows?
« Reply #7 on: January 15, 2009, 10:37:00 PM »
Orion, I'm going to experiment with some 11/32" Surewoods. Do you have any guidelines or rule of thumb on using the metal rod inserts? At first I was thinking of using drill rod, unsure which diameter, but I've started looking at some readily available small diameter brass rods I saw at a hardware store. Several diameters available, but I've yet to determine weight per inch. Am I on the right track on extending the length into the shaft beyond that of the broadhead ferrule to reduce shaft breakage??

Not certain I'd ever break 19%FOC, but if I can up the FOC a bit while increasing shaft strength behind the head, I'd be satisfied. Not sure if this method would be a better route over a hardwood footing.

Thanks for any tips,
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Re: Heavy F.O.C. and wood arrows?
« Reply #8 on: January 16, 2009, 12:32:00 PM »
I'm thinking about trying this; however with my long draw(I'm shooting 80-85# spine now)going up 20# of spine isn't an option.  If I build out my strike plate to get proper flight, will I still benifit?

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