Beefing up Beeman MFX's?

[jmc334]

Any ideas on beefing up the Beeman MFX or any of the thin diameter arrows besides weight tubes? It seems that all the options have not caught up with the small ID arrows yet. It is hard to get EFOC with the weight tubes. All my recurves are 60-70lbs. Thanks.

[mooseman76]

What setup are you using and what arrow weight are you shooting for?

[Coonbait]

I don't shoot the mfx, but on my gold tips I use the 100gr. brass inserts. They are longer than the original inserts so they allow you to add 9oz. of 1/8in. dia. plumbers solder in them. I just cut the solder approx. 3/16in. long and drop it into the throat of the insert, screw the tip in and it will fit force the solder in. Also I take the two part steel epoxy (advance auto parts sells a couple diff. types) Cut it to 25gr. squeeze together mixing it. Rolling in your hands like you are making a snake. Drop it down the nock end and tamp it down to the insert with a small wooden dowel. You can start with a little weight this way and build up as you desire.
GLENN

[jmc334]

Right now I have the 400's @ 10.4gpi at 29" with 5gpi weight tubes and 165 grain Zwickey BH. I am a little over 600 grains.

I am just looking to see if I can get there any other way?

[houseman]

What weight are you trying to get?  I also shoot the 400 @29.5 with 100 grain inserts,125gr. steel adapters and 125 broadhead.  Total weight is 680 grains.  Hope this helps.

[jmc334]

Houseman, where did you did you get the inserts and adapters? Also, are the adapters for glue-on or screw-in?

I am fine with the weight I just want to play around with some other ways to get to that weight w/o the weight tubes if possible so I can get some FOC weight.

What weight bow are you pushing them out of?

Thanks

[houseman]

3 rivers for all of it.  They are 100 gr. brass inserts and 125 gr. screw in that you glue your broadhead to.  If I put in a 175 gr. point to get my arra weight to 600 gr.  All of my bows are 58 to 66#.  If it matters 2 Morrisons 2 rers.

[jmc334]

Thanks, I must have overlooked them, did not see the HIT inserts.

I will need those Morrisons to test my new arrows with though.

[houseman]

No problem. I am on the mend from shoulder surgery.  They  have been in socks for 4 months and will be for a few more  :(

[tradtusker]

Yip im with jeffery i have 100gr brass hit inserts, 125gr steel broadhead adapters (suggest you get them from Kustom king they are made much better than the 3 rivers addapters) then 130 grain broadheads gets me right around 700grs

they hit like a tank.

[mooseman76]

http://www.3riversarchery.com/Arrows+Shafting+Inserts+%26+Adapters+Solid+Brass++For+Carbon_c58_s47_p257_i0255X_product.html

here are the inserts.  They have the steel adapters there as well.  You might even be able to go to a 340 with the brass inserts and a heavy broadhead if you want to get the EFOC up there...Mike

[Greg Dearth]

I have used both the weight tubes and brass 100 grain inserts. The brass inserts fly so much better and out penetrate my weight tube arrows. I prefer the brass inserts.

[Downsouth]

I've used the brass inserts from 3 rivers for both the Beeman MFX's and Easton FMJ's as well. They all use the same HIT insert. I wanted to use regular 125 grain broad heads and field points, but still wanted an arrow up around 600 grains total. The inserts weigh 100 grains each, so I used two inserts per arrow and cut down the one that went in first(the rear one)to 75 grains. I just cut off the threaded portion with a hacksaw and then filed it down till it hit 75 grains and smoothed off the end a bit before inserting it. You need to have the front insert with the threads ready to go as the glue sets up very quick and you'll be pushing two inserts in with the little plastic tool that's used to push HIT inserts in with.. The end result is an arrow that weighs exactly what you want with a high FOC.

[jmc334]

Excellent information gentlemen. I will have some on order by tomorrow. I appreciate the help.