"Sheepeater Spirit" Static Recurve...PICS

[Tree man]

FWIW,IMO cutting a shelf and a window in Brent's bow is sort of a tragic mistake-not because he can't do it,obviously he can, but the bow functions perfectly as originally designed. Shoot, I think I'd request leather floppy and plate on both sides-The perfect bow for switch hitters..er...umm.. I mean that in a good way.

[Randy Morin]

Ferret, unfortunately putting in as a group doesnt change your odds.  They just use the first name on the application (the captain so to speak) and it goes into the drawing.

Tree man,  "tragic mistake"...isnt that getting a little dramatic  :p  
Or you could have a shelf on one side and a floppy on the other, both worlds then.

Seriously though it's what you like and are used to in some cases.  These bowyers can accomadate a wide range of "used to's".

[Lee Viv]

Thanks for the pics of the leather rest.  I like that!  Randy or Mark, what is the turnaround time for the bows.  It's gonna be for my 50th birthday next May, so I need to know when I should order to get it by then.


Lee

[Lee Viv]

Sorry Brent, I posted the turnaround question before I read you post completely!


Lee

[Brent Rudolph]

No problem Lee. I would be honored to build you a bow for your 50th. Give me a call if you have any questions about the shelf/rest. We can talk and we will take an informed look at it. My home # is 406-222-3378.

Brent

[Tree man]

Randy, Perhaps calling a sight window "sort of a tragic mistake" was a bit dramatic but I didn't want to go over the top and accuse those who order one that way brain damaged/mentally deficient    I 'm certainly in favor of  people getting waht they want. I'm also not antishelf-The grip and shelf design on Owl bows was developed with my recommendations and feedback-anyone who is appalled by the presence of sightwindows, shelves and a contoured grip with a slight palm swell on natural materials bows can blame me-Dad always has used a shelf except for replicas where it was inappropriate but the current grip  and  radiused shelf/window grew out of my requests and suggestions. However, I think  Brent and Mark have hit a grandslam with the Rattan grip on the forward handle with the floppy shelf and no sight window. There is absolutely nothing in the way, it shoots great , isn't too spine critical and maximizes strength  while being near enough to centershot from either side to shoot very well. People ordering a sight window and shelf would mistakenly think that they are ordering improvements...but they aren't.

[Mark Baker]

Lee....looks like you got your questions answered, I hope you keep us in mind for that "special" 50th b-day bow!

Mike...great pics of the leather rest.   I hope you don't mind, I borrowed them for future use or reference, as they are better than the ones I've taken thus far.

Justin...nicely put description of the "rest"  feature on the bow.   It really is the best version we build, we think.  It sometimes is hard for folks to accept something out of the "norm", but we will try and accomodate those without the foresight or trust in our assessment.  The shelf works too, albeit with some limitations.  Bottom line is that this bow is really a "Zen-like" design...no fat just pure stored potential.  That's the beauty of the bow, simple and very effective.  There is not a lot to work with in terms of altering the original design....the small grip and riser section is part of what makes this bow the shooter that it is, and there is no room in this size package to alter it much.   It ain't broken, no need to "fix" it.   But for those who need the comfort of a shelf, we can accomodate you, but there is an increased stress put on the remaining riser in doing so...and, you lose the "give" that the rest affords you in tunability.

This is the only bow I know of that you can shoot either side, right or left, off your hand, and turn it upside down, and do it again, right or left, without sacrificing accuracy or performance.  It is perfect balance in design.

[Tree man]

Randy, I just realized that the beautiful 'boo backed Sheepeater of a couple of pages ago is yours and has a shelf and window cut out....Doh, please don't let my previous comments offend you- your bow is beautiful and I'm certain it is a great performer ... I'm just totally sold on the standard grip/shelf design. I love it when bowyers do something "unconventional" that really works. Brent and Mark's basic Sheepeater is a true winner.

[MikeC]

Mark,

Not a problem use them all you want.  My camera is a piece of ####.  The pictures show the shelf OK but don't do the bow justice with regards to color.

Love the bow.

Mike

[Randy Morin]

TreeMan, no worries bud, I love my Sheepeater with the shelf. Shooting without a shelf is "weird" for me although I am sure I could get used to it and I agree that the bow of course works just fine that way.  Arrow impact point is off to the left by a ways when shooting off the side of the bow compared to the more centershot version.  It all goes back to what I am more familiar with and confident shooting.  Be a shame for those like me to not have the option at all.  Judging from the bows Mark was finishing the other day I'd say the shelf cut-in is gonna be a popular option. Time will tell.  Either way it's a great bow and fun will be had by all...in there own way.                  

Randy.

[Chad Sivertsen]

My Sheepeater will be with the Rattan grip and no shelf. I think it will work great, should know before too long.

With my run of luck and a bow named Sheepeater the Karma should be good to draw a bighorn permit.

[Lee Viv]

Mark, Brent, et al:

Thanks for all the info!  My 50th isn't till May of 2008, so I have some time.  Jus trying to get all the info beforehand.  Will only be 49 this May, but sometimes feel like 59 going on 60!

Looks great, can't wait to order!


Lee

[Mark Baker]

No problem, Lee...we will still be building bows, I hope, this time next year!   Does'nt hurt to plan ahead.   I just turned 47 a couple months ago, and the way the years have been flying by, I think I'll start planning for my 50th now as well.   I'm thinking a hunt is in order....

Chad...I know your lucky and all, but you might be pushing it a bit, huh?   You did just draw an AZ elk tag, did'nt you?   A sheep tag might be just a bit much this year.  I think maybe you should just stay out of the draw altogether...by the way what unit are you NOT gonna apply for?   I think the odds may be one guy better!  

I gotta find a new moose unit to put in for since the wolves have decimated the moose around here.   Better start doing my homework.

[Chad Sivertsen]

Lee, You only turn 50 once, with a year to plan you should get 2 or 3.

Mark, My luck continues, I drew a turkey tag for this area, first one in 17 years. After over twenty years trying to draw sheep, goat, or moose in Montana I figure I'm about due. Sheep and goat country can be tough and I'm not getting more agile. I apply for local units so if drawn I can spend a lot of time scouting and most of the season in the mountains.

I just saw news today that the wolf population grew the most in NW Montana this past year, seems the new wolves are taking over territory from the wolves that have always been here.  

Randy, my bear season is in jeopardy. I just landed a major design contract, good news in some ways but bad news for hunting time this spring. I will be in touch.