Beman carbons, need advice

[LKH]

I have two new bows that to shoot with carbon arrows. I understand they have a wood finished arrow.  These are my stats.
Bows are 54 and 56# at 28", R/D HSS longbows.
My draw is 26"  I want to weight the front end, but don't want to be very heavy since I intend to use them for spot and stalk and want a better trajectory.

Does anyone have any actual experience with this arrow.  I need it from someone with a short draw like mine.

[sputterman]

Ics hunters'27 1/2"long with 250gr up front,weighs right at 500grs.spined for longbow at 50lbs.don't know about the wood grain thow.

50# @ 25" Bear patriot

[LKH]

I'm not familiar with the Ics hunter.  What spine are you using?  I could cut them a little longer and get the weight down to about 450 which is what I'd like.

Thanks

[Hattrick]

i shoot the MFXs 340s with 250 up front cut to 29" i draw 28.5" out of my morrison ILF longbow.....i think u would need the 400s an could weight them up an trim them to work....the ICS are spine the same for the most... good shafts

[sputterman]

LKH I was talking about 500 spine,they weigh 8.6grpi.Pretty tough to and not real exspensive.

[ChadF]

Hattrick, you shoot 340's off of what poundage?

[ChadF]

Oh, by the way, the wood grain arrows are beman classics. They are a HIT insert design. Carbon express and gold tip also make wood grain carbons.

[crandog]

Chad, he's talking about the Trad Only wood grain carbons from 3 rivers.  I've been told they are the ICS hunters with a wood grain finish.

[Hattrick]

Sorry 58#... i like the MFXs, but if ur looking for inexpensive shaft ur not going to bet ICSs..i like the small dia of MFXs they seem to blow through anything i shoot.. u may even have to drop down to 500s

[LKH]

So if I understand the above posts, Beman makes a wood grain called the Classic.  I think I'll see if I can find an email for Beman and get a little more help.  

Thanks

[Oliverstacy]

I've shot Beman MFX Classics out of my Savannah for the last two years...they've also flown out of my Bacote Kill-um.  

The most experience I have with them is out of my Savannah...50 @ 29" pulled to around 29.5" and the arrows are 30.5" long and I shoot 145 grain points with the standard adaptors.  They fly great and total out just shy of 500 grains.

400 spine MFX classics will need a 100 grain brass adaptor and about 200 grain points if not closer to 250 grains for a total of 300-350 grains upfront and close to 625 grains fully loaded.

I've shot the Beman Black Max (same as the wood grain just without the wood grain    ) and they are also great.  GPI are a touch lighter but they fly the same and hit the same…that being said I think the wood grain (Classic’s) are a touch tougher and will last a bit longer.

For your weight and draw I’d suggest starting with the 500 spine MFX with about 150 to 175 up front and the normal adaptors you might get away with 200 grain points.  They are a very stiff arrow by nature.  Your draw length and overall arrow length is going to stiffen them up a lot.  Plus remember the arrow is micro dia and the arrow will be stiffer if your bow isn’t cut to center, arrow point isn’t as far out to begin with.

Hope this helps…I just started playing around with my new Kajika Stik 55 @ 29” and they love 400 spine arrows with 200 grain points and 100 grain adaptors, total arrow weight is 605 grains.  They just flat out shoot great.  I got a wild hair up my keister and built three Beman MFX Classic 340’s…they weigh 726 grains total.  250 grain point, 100 grain adaptor and the arrows are 31” long, they’ll knock the target over and fly amazing with 24% FOC.

Sorry rambling on...

Josh

[LostNation_Larry]

Just to add a little info on the Beman MFX Classics: the 50-75 grain brass inserts are new for 2009.  If you get old stock shafts they will still have the 10 grain aluminum inserts.  You can also get 100 grain inserts from Lost Nation, Kustom King, 3 Rivers and other places.  Since you are trying to keep the weight down you might want to get the aluminum inserts.  I know we still have plenty.

[Bird Dog]

I shoot 500 Beman MFX Classics out of all my bows with weights from 44# to 56# at 28". All but one of the bows is cut to center or slightly past center. They can be bare shaft tuned by playing around with the point weight.

[LKH]

Thanks again.  I have been shooting arrows 29.5" long for quite a while to handle the spine issue without getting too heavy up front.  

I think I'll get a dozen of the classic 500's and do some bareshafting w/the 50/75 inserts.  Have to wait for the 2' of hardpack snow to thaw around my styro blocks.