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Offline luvnlongbow

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Shoot Opinion
« on: March 30, 2009, 09:32:00 PM »
I participated in a shoot yesterday that was advertised as both a Compound and Traditional shoot. This was a competitive shoot.The compound shooters were divided into the appropriate classes. However the Traditional shooters were lumped into one class. What is your opinion of this shoot? Should they have divided the Trad shooters into different classes (Longbow, Recurve, etc.) or do as they did and place all Trad shooters in one class?

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Re: Shoot Opinion
« Reply #1 on: March 30, 2009, 09:40:00 PM »
How many, and of what variety, trad shooters were there?

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Offline Leo L.

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Re: Shoot Opinion
« Reply #2 on: March 30, 2009, 09:43:00 PM »
Yea depending on how many it should have been divided.  Not all trad are created equal.

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Re: Shoot Opinion
« Reply #3 on: March 30, 2009, 09:47:00 PM »
I like to have separate classes because then I can shoot more by getting there early and shooting more than one round. We have some clubs that have separate classes and some that don't in my area. The ones that don't have separate classes say it is because there are not enough shooters to justify spending the money on awards.

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Offline Chuck Hoopes

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Re: Shoot Opinion
« Reply #4 on: March 30, 2009, 09:56:00 PM »
I interpret your ? to be-- Should recurvers, and longbow men be in separate divisions?  
 In over 40yrs. of shooting, in all kinds of cirumstances,(including at least 100 3D's) I have not witnessed any decernible diff.   Some clubs do make a distinction, and make 2 divisions, as if longbow shooters are not as capable.  Yeah, tell that to H.Hill, B.Ferguson.  Its about the shooter, not the particular curve of the bow. Ive shot both, and watched others for so many years, that I can't imagine how someone thinks their is any quantifiable diff.  Its a silly myth.

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Re: Shoot Opinion
« Reply #5 on: March 30, 2009, 10:36:00 PM »
I don't believe there should be different classes in the trad division, longbow and recurves are the same, it is just the shooter that makes the difference just as Chuck said.

The only division I can think of is maybe those with sights attached and those who don't, but there are not usually enough shooters with sights to make another class.
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Offline luvnlongbow

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Re: Shoot Opinion
« Reply #6 on: March 30, 2009, 10:40:00 PM »
Killdeer, there were about 20 Trad shooters. The bows were Self, Longbow, and Recurve.

Chuck Hoopes, I agree that 'it is about the shooter'. However, I think that if you shoot a competative tournament then you should shoot with or against the folks that are shooting the same bow (ie. Longbow, Recurve, Self).

Offline Bear Heart

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Re: Shoot Opinion
« Reply #7 on: March 30, 2009, 10:48:00 PM »
Only divisions I see are men, women and children.  Sight shooters have their own class if there are enough of them, shoot against compound or don't shoot for a trophy.
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Offline Chuck Hoopes

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Re: Shoot Opinion
« Reply #8 on: March 31, 2009, 12:18:00 AM »
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Originally posted by luvnlongbow:
Killdeer, there were about 20 Trad shooters. The bows were Self, Longbow, and Recurve.

Chuck Hoopes, I agree that 'it is about the shooter'. However, I think that if you shoot a competative tournament then you should shoot with or against the folks that are shooting the same bow (ie. Longbow, Recurve, Self).
I think you answered your own question--you think they should all be seperated.  My experience tells me this is just not neccessary if all you are looking for is an even playing field.  There is however, enough justification to put Self bows in a seperate class, when shots exceed 25 or 30yds.  Iam guessing that you have not shot longbow and recurves long enough to realize that you do just as well w/ either at 3D shoots. I know I thought recurves were some big advantage, until I learned to shoot a LB.

Offline Chuck Hoopes

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Re: Shoot Opinion
« Reply #9 on: March 31, 2009, 12:25:00 AM »
Just a quick Post script--  Most of the longbows I see these days are Recurves in drag, anyway. Personally, I like 'em straight, and do not feel Iam at any disadvantage shooting against recurves.

Offline La. bowhunter

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Re: Shoot Opinion
« Reply #10 on: March 31, 2009, 07:30:00 AM »
In my area at the shoots for everyone we do not seperate by equipment but by skill. We have a trad. class and an advanced trad. class. At the trad.only shoots the classes are seperated by types of bows and the arrows you shoot.
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Offline Dartwick

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Re: Shoot Opinion
« Reply #11 on: March 31, 2009, 07:46:00 AM »
Trad bow in general is moving to an era where there is blurry line between recurve and long bow.

It would be nice to have
-self bows(or all natural laminates maybe)
-off the shelf bare bow with no attachments
-anything else without wheels
Wherever you went - here you are.

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