yes alot of stand up people on this site.I also just jot a great deal.I had a hornes traditionalist longbow that I traded for a sa111 with hard travel case from widow and the soft case that excepts bow with quiver and arrows attached.12 alum arrows 5 with broadheads and the rest with feild points.two new widow strings ,woolie whispers two sets,extra shelf matterial,doz nocking points.and bolt on quiver all in like 100% condition.I was like a kid at christmas opening all the stuff up.thank you Johny