endless D97 string question

[ozy clint]

i make a better quality endless than flemish so i would like to give an endless D97 a go to see if i can get it as quiet as my dacron and then enjoy the performance.

would 10 or 12 strands be allright for a 54# recurve if i padded the loops with some dacron?

how many strands for a 69# recurve.
the thing i'm considering is that endless strings have half the strand count in the loops.

[Orion]

10 strands would probably be OK for the 54#bow; 12 would give a larger margin of safety.  Either is too light in an endless string for a 69# bow, IMO.

[ozy clint]

14 or 16 for 69# then?

[JRY309]

I use 12 strands for my 83# longbow,a 12 strand D97 is strong enough for up to a 100# bow.But that is a flemish twist,I haven't done many endless loop D97 strings.But it is easy to pad the loop ends on endless strings.A 12 strand would only give you 6 strands in the loop ends.

[Orion]

Ozy Clint:  I suggest you read the thread that O.L started here a month or so ago on thin strings.  Folks who tested the breaking strength of D-97 and a number of other materials found that most of them broke at much lower than advertised levels. If memory serves, a number of folks found that D-97 broke at less than 50# per strand, for example. Further, I believe that all of the strings tested were flemish twist, though some of the super thin 4-6-strand strings that did break broke in the middle on the string, not at the loops.

Jry309, is your 12-strand string an endless loop?

[JRY309]

Orion,it is a 2-bunble flemish twist with 3 extra strands per bundle in the loop ends.Been shooting it on there for 2 years.I like to pad the loop ends to make them a larger diameter to better fill the string grooves,I feel makes a quieter string.I make 12 strand D97 for all my bows from 50# to the 83#,for the same nock fit.I have made more endless loop dacron for my dacron only bows,I've only made 1 endless D97.I just like flemish twist for my D97 strings.

[frank bullitt]

Ozy, 10 strands will be fine! For both weights.

[Orion]

Keep in mind that Ozy is talking about an endless loop string, not a flemish string.  That means on a 10 strand string, only 5 strands goes around the nock, not 10 like a flemish string, and I continue to maintain that is not enough for a 70# bow.  It may hold, but it's marginal.  Padding retards wear and tear on the bow and the string, but doesn't add much strength to the string nock ends.

[Jason R. Wesbrock]

When I shot 65# @ 32" I used the same type of string I make for all my bows: a 12-strand endless Dyna97 string. I've never padded loops, never saw a need for it, and never broke a string in my life. Personally, for 69# I'd opt for 14-strands, but that's just me.

[Gordon martiniuk]

I Shoot 10 strand endless on a 54 and 60 lb recurve perfect ,, why sweat it if Ol shoots 4 or 6 , then 10 is overkill ,, but it works well for me as nock fit with .30 serving and carbons is good not to tight or too loose Good Luck!