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Author Topic: Thoughts after my first few days of becomming a trad archer  (Read 244 times)

Offline DeoreDX

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First off, shooting my bow is a LOT of fun.

I picked up a Samick Talon Takedown.   Very plain wood riser with glass lam limbs.  40# @ 28".  My draw is closer to 27" but as someone just a few days into his archery career honestly my draw is all over the place right now.

In the past I could pick up a 40-50 up to 55# long bow or recurve or up to 60# wheel bows and thought I had no problems pulling it back, holding it a good 3-5+ seconds, and shooting it.  But there is a huge difference shooting a friend's bow a couple of times and getting one of your own and shooting lots of arrows in the back yard.  I guess my shooting muscles don't have the stamina yet cause after 20-30 arrows I can really feel it in the back of my shoulder.  I can feel I'm not nearly as steady as I was the first few shots.  I think if I had it to do over again I would get something in the 30# range instead of 40# so I can work on my bow form longer without tiring out.  In fact I still may do that (if the wife doesn't kill me).  I wonder if they make 30-35# limbs for the Talon?

But so far the biggest problem I have is my fingers are the sorest part of my body.  I am shooting with a tab, about 1.5mm thick leather with another 1.5mm layer of black hairy slick type material.  My index finger seems to be the sorest.  I don't know if a shooting glove or a different tab will be better but after 20-30 arrows my fingers get very sore.  Does this eventually go away or is it something akin to bad shooting form?
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Offline FerretWYO

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Re: Thoughts after my first few days of becomming a trad archer
« Reply #1 on: June 03, 2009, 12:02:00 AM »
You will work into that weight very easy.Just dont overdo it. Develop and practice a consistent form. Your muscles will build to support.

As for you fingers. They also will toughen up. It wont take long and they will quit burning.
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Offline GRINCH

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Re: Thoughts after my first few days of becomming a trad archer
« Reply #2 on: June 03, 2009, 03:13:00 AM »
As with all new activities you are using new muscle groups,as Ferret said work into it,shoot as long as is comfotable when you start to struggle take a break.
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Offline John3

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Re: Thoughts after my first few days of becomming a trad archer
« Reply #3 on: June 03, 2009, 04:22:00 AM »
Shooting a few "quality" arrows (using great concentration and form) is better than shooting 100 average arrows.. This is all about correct shooting form..

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Offline Boomerang

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Re: Thoughts after my first few days of becomming a trad archer
« Reply #4 on: June 03, 2009, 12:29:00 PM »
Try shooting 3 fingers under. My index finger got real sore until I went to 3 under.

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Re: Thoughts after my first few days of becomming a trad archer
« Reply #5 on: June 03, 2009, 01:33:00 PM »
Sore fingers will go away. Dont over do it though. If I have not been shooting for a while my fingers get tender and it takes a few days of light shooting to get them toughened up.
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Offline Dick in Seattle

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Re: Thoughts after my first few days of becomming a trad archer
« Reply #6 on: June 03, 2009, 01:49:00 PM »
Sore fingers are sometimes a sign that your "hook" isn't deep enough... if you're shooting off the ball of the finger tip, it can really get to you.  Switching to a glove with somewhat heavier leather tips might be an option, too.
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Offline George D. Stout

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Re: Thoughts after my first few days of becomming a trad archer
« Reply #7 on: June 03, 2009, 02:03:00 PM »
You can still use a tab and get a deeper hook...in the first crease of the fingers.  I've used both tabs and gloves, but like tabs much better.  And no....you don't need to shoot three under.  Anything sore is telling you to let them heal....take a day off now and then.

Offline dragon rider

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Re: Thoughts after my first few days of becomming a trad archer
« Reply #8 on: June 03, 2009, 03:18:00 PM »
The sore fingers will go away and your hand gets tougher - sort of like learning to play a guitar - a small wire or string across your fingers, especially with a lot of pressure just isn't "normal."  They have to be trained to it.

Whether you use a tab or a glove or shoot split or 3 under is pretty much a personal preference issue.  I shoot 3 under because I'm more accurate that way.  Some bows seem noisier 3 under and some don't.  I prefer a glove, but that really have more to do with it being harder to lose once I fasten the strap around my wrist than any inherent advantage of gloves.

As for practice, Ferret and the others are right.  Too much is not a good thing.  You start getting tired and sloppy and then your muscles are learning sloppy habits.  

Do some form practice, about 5 yards back from something you can't miss and pay no attention to where you hit, just make sure your draw and release are smooth and consistent.  When you're going for accuracy, shoot a group or two to warm up and then start shooting single arrows. Concentrate on each shot, and then either go get your arrow, or at least move to different place, and take another good shot.  After about 1/2 hour, quit until tomorrow.

And above all else, have fun.  If you find you're out there shooting and it's not fun, hang it up for the day and come back tomorrow.  A wise man once told me that shooting instinctively has some resemblance to teaching pigs to sing - somedays you go out and all you're doing is frustrating yourself and annoying the pigs; other days, those porkers are out there in perfect four part harmony and the shooting session is pure joy.  Never lose the fun.
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Offline bayoulongbowman

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Re: Thoughts after my first few days of becomming a trad archer
« Reply #9 on: June 03, 2009, 03:28:00 PM »
walk before ya run grasshopper...  :wavey:
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Offline DeoreDX

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Re: Thoughts after my first few days of becomming a trad archer
« Reply #10 on: June 03, 2009, 03:32:00 PM »
Well the problem is it's too much fun and I don't want to stop even though my arms and fingers tell me otherwise  :)

I have the string resting right in the crease of the joint.  It feels more like a "bruise" then any rubbing or burning.
-Jin aka DeoreDX

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Re: Thoughts after my first few days of becomming a trad archer
« Reply #11 on: June 04, 2009, 12:31:00 AM »
Be careful, any  sign of numbness can be lead to some real problems. Maybe someone with more knowledge can elaborate on this. - Steve

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Re: Thoughts after my first few days of becomming a trad archer
« Reply #12 on: June 04, 2009, 05:50:00 AM »
If you mean sore as in fatigued, don't worry. It's your tendons and ligaments getting used to the new workload. You should rest a day in between your shooting sessions, unless of course you're shooting for 10-15 minutes, which I take it that you're not  :D

If you don't give your fingers some rest, you may just end up with some inflammation or even a pulled tendon or ligament.
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Re: Thoughts after my first few days of becomming a trad archer
« Reply #13 on: June 04, 2009, 03:52:00 PM »
When I have days that I can't shoot, I pickup up a dumbell at a yard sale with about 35 lbs.  I use it to work my shoulders.  Do several different lifting styles to work all the muscles.  This makes a world of difference is shoulder strength.  I shoot 70 lbs. and must keep the shoulders in shape.  Being over 60 yrs old also makes a difference.  :archer:

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