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Author Topic: Thinkin' of Trying Carbons-UPDATE  (Read 620 times)

Offline ishoot4thrills

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Thinkin' of Trying Carbons-UPDATE
« on: June 12, 2009, 11:27:00 PM »
Hey guys and gals. I'm thinkin' I might need to try carbons with Trad. I shot carbons for years with wheelies but never tried with trad. I am just wondering where to start. I'm kinda partial to Carbon Express but am also open to others. I think I may start out with a budget friendly shaft but I don't wanna sacrifice too much in quality of shafts by goin' too cheap. I'll be shooting them in a cut-to-center Beeler LB, around 52#@27", with a D97 FF string. I like arrows in the 28-30" range in length. Anybody know anything about the Carbon Express Predator II shafts?

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Re: Thinkin' of Trying Carbons-UPDATE
« Reply #1 on: June 12, 2009, 11:32:00 PM »
In another post I started, "30coupe" recommended Beman ICS Bowhunter 500s and said they're cheap. Anybody else recommend these too?
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Re: Thinkin' of Trying Carbons-UPDATE
« Reply #2 on: June 12, 2009, 11:38:00 PM »
Try out a few different ones if you can. I personally love my Arrow Dynamics. I shoot the same shaft out of all 13 of my bows. They range between 45# and 55#. I pretty much use close to the same weight up front too.
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Re: Thinkin' of Trying Carbons-UPDATE
« Reply #3 on: June 13, 2009, 12:23:00 AM »
Gold Tip Expedition Hunters are another good choice for someone on a tighter budget.  I have them listed on my website for $75.00 they have arrows wraps and are fletched with 5" feathers.

Like Wannabe said you can not go wrong with Arrow Dynamics they come in Wood Grain or Black.

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Re: Thinkin' of Trying Carbons-UPDATE
« Reply #4 on: June 13, 2009, 12:48:00 AM »
I use the GT 55/75's (30.5") with 250gr up front. they work great off both my 50#recurve and my 50# longbow.

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Re: Thinkin' of Trying Carbons-UPDATE
« Reply #5 on: June 13, 2009, 03:33:00 AM »
I have been using Easton Power flights 500s. Works good out of my recurves . I like to shoot ground  sqirrels so I need somthing that will last a bit longer at hitting rocks.
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Re: Thinkin' of Trying Carbons-UPDATE
« Reply #6 on: June 13, 2009, 05:37:00 AM »
Go with the beeman mfx 500. Those skinny carbons do well.

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Re: Thinkin' of Trying Carbons-UPDATE
« Reply #7 on: June 13, 2009, 05:47:00 AM »
Thanks everyone.

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35/55 Gold Tip Pink Nugents @ 30"
3 X 5" Feathers
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Re: Thinkin' of Trying Carbons-UPDATE
« Reply #8 on: June 13, 2009, 06:02:00 AM »
I'm nothing but pleased with Gold Tip traditionals.. They are tough and easy to tune..


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Re: Thinkin' of Trying Carbons-UPDATE
« Reply #9 on: June 13, 2009, 06:12:00 AM »
GT blems, are 39.99 a dozen from Big Jim, they are good shafts for the money.
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Re: Thinkin' of Trying Carbons-UPDATE
« Reply #10 on: June 13, 2009, 06:20:00 AM »
If I go with the GT, which should I choose? The 35/55 or 55/75? About how much weight up front with each?
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Ten Strand D10 String
Kanati Bow Quiver
35/55 Gold Tip Pink Nugents @ 30"
3 X 5" Feathers
19.9% FOC
49# @ 26.75"
165 FPS @ 10.4 GPP (510 gr. hunting arrow)
171 FPS @ 9.7 GPP (475 gr. 3D arrow)
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Re: Thinkin' of Trying Carbons-UPDATE
« Reply #11 on: June 13, 2009, 02:11:00 PM »
If you look for the thread on Stu's Spine Calculator you will have a calculator that will make choosing carbon shafts very easy! Check it out.
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Re: Thinkin' of Trying Carbons-UPDATE
« Reply #12 on: June 13, 2009, 02:12:00 PM »
http://www.heilakka.com/dynamic.htm  

Here's a link to the calculator. At the bottom click on the 6-12-09 download.
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Re: Thinkin' of Trying Carbons-UPDATE
« Reply #13 on: June 13, 2009, 02:24:00 PM »
The bowhunters are good shafts.I shoot them a lot.Hard to beat the price as well if you shop around a little.I prefer Beman/Easton products over most others.
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Re: Thinkin' of Trying Carbons-UPDATE
« Reply #14 on: June 13, 2009, 02:44:00 PM »
What Stone Knife said, especially if you want to keeps the costs down.
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Re: Thinkin' of Trying Carbons-UPDATE
« Reply #15 on: June 13, 2009, 02:44:00 PM »
Oh sorry, also I think that the 3555's would work well for you at your specs.
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Re: Thinkin' of Trying Carbons-UPDATE
« Reply #16 on: June 13, 2009, 10:44:00 PM »
Thanks for all of your help, guys. I like using Stu's calculator with aluminums but I guess I never even looked at it for carbons! DUH!   :rolleyes:    :smileystooges:    :knothead:
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Ten Strand D10 String
Kanati Bow Quiver
35/55 Gold Tip Pink Nugents @ 30"
3 X 5" Feathers
19.9% FOC
49# @ 26.75"
165 FPS @ 10.4 GPP (510 gr. hunting arrow)
171 FPS @ 9.7 GPP (475 gr. 3D arrow)
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Re: Thinkin' of Trying Carbons-UPDATE
« Reply #17 on: June 14, 2009, 03:22:00 PM »
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Originally posted by STEVE R.:
Go with the beeman mfx 500. Those skinny carbons do well.
I took your advice, Steve R. and just bought 12 Beman MFX Classic 500s on here in the classifieds. They're 29.25" and have 100 grain brass inserts installed and are fletched w/4" shield-cut feathers. Only one has been shot! I think these are gonna be ideal.

Thanks everyone!
58" JK Traditions Kanati Longbow
Ten Strand D10 String
Kanati Bow Quiver
35/55 Gold Tip Pink Nugents @ 30"
3 X 5" Feathers
19.9% FOC
49# @ 26.75"
165 FPS @ 10.4 GPP (510 gr. hunting arrow)
171 FPS @ 9.7 GPP (475 gr. 3D arrow)
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Offline Romans3

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Re: Thinkin' of Trying Carbons-UPDATE
« Reply #18 on: June 14, 2009, 08:34:00 PM »
I just tried predator 2s as my first carbons. I couldn't believe how nice they flew... but was also surprised at the lack of durability. I broke 4 in 2 weeks, and I'm really not too hard on them. I don't know if it was because I was using glue inserts and points?
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Re: Thinkin' of Trying Carbons-UPDATE
« Reply #19 on: June 16, 2009, 08:58:00 PM »
It looks like you found what you were looking for.  I wanted to also try carbons out of my 50# recurves - weigh up the front end, better penetration, etc.  I ended up using the Easton Axis 500s (400s were too stiff) cut to 30 1/2", 3 5" feathers, 100 gr brass inserts, 145 gr 4 blade Magnus bheads.  setup works great.  Took this bear with them (15 yds, 50 yd recovery) and hope to use this on moose this fall.
 
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