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Offline Boswell

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Bowyers Edge Tree Seat
« on: July 06, 2009, 08:32:00 PM »
The link I have for his tree seat dementions is no longer there. Is there any one out there who can help me out on dementions and size and where to drill holes and every thing?
Thanks Guys,
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Offline Oregon Okie

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Re: Bowyers Edge Tree Seat
« Reply #1 on: July 06, 2009, 09:07:00 PM »
do a search on here for Torges seat. I remember a few threads last year.
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Re: Bowyers Edge Tree Seat
« Reply #2 on: July 06, 2009, 09:12:00 PM »
Bozz,
I must be fat, haha ! I tried the dimensions for the Torge's seat and just did not fit me that good. I bought a good sheet of AC 5/8" plywood that has 5 plys to it. I made 12 seats out of that one sheet in a few hours. Mine are 20" X 14". I used a 5 gallon bucket for the radius that fits the tree and quart paint can for the radius on the front corners. I also cut a 45 degree angle that is 3.5" X 3.5" on the rear corners to save weight and get rid of this material that is not usable when sitting. I then drilled the holes with a 5/8" butterfly bit 1" in from the outside edge and 7" from the front edge. On one side I also drilled another hole 1" from the other. This is used for adjusting to the tree without tying knots as Torges seat does. Simply tie a double knot on the side with one hole to keep the rope from pulling thru, then slip the rope around the tree, go thru the hole close to you going under the seat, back up thru the other hole 1" from the first, then slip the tag end of rope thru the loop formed between the two holes. I also used a 1/4" round over bit to go around the entire edge of the seat and then sanded with sandpaper to get rid of all rough edges. Two coats of spray poly and done ! I use 1/2" black and orange poly rope from Home Depot for the rope. I even rig the rope to the length needed for slinging this over my shoulder / chest like a bandolier and you never know the seat is on your back as you carry to the woods. My hat is off to Dean Torges for a great idea that I modified slightly to fit my fat butt ! My friends love the seats I made them and cannot believe they had not thought of something this simple. Wonderful little tool !

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Offline ron w

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Re: Bowyers Edge Tree Seat
« Reply #3 on: July 06, 2009, 09:23:00 PM »
I have made a few and they work real well. But now I have started playing around with the width and some other things to make it even better. Adding a pad and just making little improvments so I can sit for longer periods of time. Have even thought about makeing it fold so it will fit in a pack. Have fun and try some new stuff maybe you'll come up with the best one yet!>>>--->
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Re: Bowyers Edge Tree Seat
« Reply #4 on: July 06, 2009, 09:58:00 PM »
Nocam,
Would you be able to post pictues to help me get a better mental picture  ;)
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Re: Bowyers Edge Tree Seat
« Reply #5 on: July 06, 2009, 11:01:00 PM »
Here ya go Bozz...

 
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Re: Bowyers Edge Tree Seat
« Reply #6 on: July 06, 2009, 11:02:00 PM »
I wish I knew how to work Photobucket !

 
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Re: Bowyers Edge Tree Seat
« Reply #7 on: July 06, 2009, 11:36:00 PM »
Nicely done  :thumbsup:
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Offline ron w

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Re: Bowyers Edge Tree Seat
« Reply #8 on: July 07, 2009, 11:17:00 AM »
Just a ? Is the back of the seat better with a radius or would it grab the tree better if it was "V" shaped.
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Re: Bowyers Edge Tree Seat
« Reply #9 on: July 07, 2009, 11:49:00 AM »
ron w,
Might grab the tree a little better, not sure ? If it did one problem would be delaminating the plywood due to all your weight pulling at the plies. With the radius you get more contact on most trees and spread the forces over the entire length of the contact area. The 1/4" rollover radius I put on the plywood edge all around on both sides also keeps the plywood from delaminating due to wear and tear and weather. Also makes all the edges smooth and keeps it from snagging your clothing and lets you shift your weight around as you slide around on the seat to stay comfy or peak around to the side or behind you.

The first one I built for a pattern and experimentation delaminated in the tree contact area when I had not rolled the edges over with the 1/4" radius router bit. Also, the quality of plywood sucks these days and in the middle of sheets you will have voids in the lams. Just make sure you have none of the voids in the tree contact area and you will be fine. Make sure you buy good 5/8" AC plywood with 5 plies, about $35 a sheet if I remember right ? 5/8' is a good happy medium between 1/2" and 3/4". One being a little flimsy, the latter a little heavy. $35 is a bargain considering you can make 12 seats and give them to your buddies. If you change the length of the seat to 19" you can get 5 seats long out of a 8' sheet of plywood and get 15 seats instead of 12 like I did out of a sheet.

Now get to Lowes, HD or you good ole' mom and pop hardware store, pick up a sheet of 5/8" AC plywood. Go home, break out the tools, gather the kids so they can learn, and make some sawdust, memories, and new treeseat fans for life !!! I am making a smaller kids version soon for my nephew. I think it will be about 10" X 16" to fit that little tyke ?
 
 Again, kudos to Dean Torges for the original design. I am constantly amazed at the ingenuity of folks like him. I love learning on this site !


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Re: Bowyers Edge Tree Seat
« Reply #10 on: July 07, 2009, 01:26:00 PM »
I made my first one last weekend from some scrap 3/4". I works great for what it is. If you get some rope that has an stretch it will not work as well. My rope has almost no stretch but I still have to tilt it up slightly before sitting to have it level. I might make a few more and leave them in the woods.
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Re: Bowyers Edge Tree Seat
« Reply #11 on: July 07, 2009, 02:08:00 PM »
Looks like some mods that I planned for some gift seats for a couple of my "larger" friends.  Good stuff.
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Re: Bowyers Edge Tree Seat
« Reply #12 on: July 07, 2009, 02:30:00 PM »
Yep,
I usually set mine on about a 20 degree angled tilt up to begin with and then ease my fat butt down and check for comfort. If I do not have enough tilt or too much then i adjust slightly and then settle in. This will take care of rope stretch and give you a better bite on the tree.  I try to get it set up and down on the tree where my thighs are level with the ground or slightly lower so the edge of the seat does not bite into the back of my thighs and get me cold and numb. Easiest shot is to my right since I am a lefty. If you are careful you can stand up without bumping it loose from the tree or put a bungee around the tree to help secure it for when you stand up.

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Re: Bowyers Edge Tree Seat
« Reply #13 on: July 07, 2009, 04:08:00 PM »
The ones that I made "V" shaped, I put alum. angle on the edges so it did'nt delam. About 3" on each side. Seem'd to work!
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Re: Bowyers Edge Tree Seat
« Reply #14 on: July 07, 2009, 04:56:00 PM »
Garden hose split and put on the tree side keeps it from delaminating and quiets it down where it meets the tree to boot!
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Re: Bowyers Edge Tree Seat
« Reply #15 on: July 08, 2009, 12:35:00 AM »
Would one of u folks make me one and what would the cost be?
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Re: Bowyers Edge Tree Seat
« Reply #16 on: July 08, 2009, 12:12:00 PM »
Making one of these is so easy even a cave man can do it.  I made a few for friends and kept one for myself that fits right in my pack.

 

 
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Re: Bowyers Edge Tree Seat
« Reply #17 on: July 08, 2009, 12:38:00 PM »
Lon... I think I'm offended.
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Re: Bowyers Edge Tree Seat
« Reply #18 on: July 08, 2009, 02:14:00 PM »
this was such a great benefit, I took it to the next level.

I made a crapper too.
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