question on my trad setup

[FeelTheHunt]

i have a 45lb kodiak magnum, and i got easton legacy 2018s cause thats what the guy at cabelas recommended for good penetration, im afraid i chose a arrow that is too heavy, does anyone have some advice on my situation? btw im using 100 gr tips

[Mo. Huntin]

I wish I new more about aluminum arrow sizes bud.  I think and don't hold me to it but those may be a little stiff.  I am shooting a 1916 with a 175 grain tip full length with my montana longbow at 45 pounds.  Always ask these guys on here before you make a large purchase some really know there stuff I am still learning my self.

[FeelTheHunt]

thanks guy! and by the way, why do so  many people use such heavy tips in trad?

[JRY309]

I feel 2018 is alittle too stiff for a 45# bow.I would agree a 1916 would be a better choice and would still give you enough weight for a 45# bow.

[FeelTheHunt]

would 2018 do the job though?

[Mo. Huntin]

a lot of people say that a arrow that has more weight forward flies better and penetrates better.  I am going to put that to the test this year.  I also like a lot of metal in my broadheads because I think it makes them tougher.  Assuming I am correct and those arrows really are to stiff you should notice a huge differece in your accuracy when you get the correct arrow.  Lots of guys on here like a 550 grain or even heavier arrow for your 45 pound bow, also a lot of guys don't think it needs to be that heavy.

[FeelTheHunt]

so your saying alot of guys think that the arrow im using is okay, but you would say otherwise? pretty much im trying to figure out if thes arrows i have will do the job, cause they fly ok.

[Mo. Huntin]

Nope.  Heavy and the stiffness(spine) of the arrow are 2 different things.  I am just sayind you are not going to get an arrow to heavy unless you do something extreme.  I think the arrows you have work better with bows in the 55 pound range. You might be able to put a lot of weight on the front I mean a lot of weight and get them to group good but I know you would be better off with a 1916.

[FeelTheHunt]

okay thanks man

[Mo. Huntin]

Here is what I would do.  I would go to a archery shop and buy 2 or 3 1916s.  I would order the field point test kit from 3 rivers and visit OL adcocks website and learn how to bareshaft tune and then move on to broadheads.  I stink at posting links but somebody will come a long and post it I am sure then you will be on your way buddy.  aluminum is not the only way there are carbon arrows that will work for that bow also. I wish you where closer I would have you going in no time.

[ishoot4thrills]

Originally posted by Mo. Huntin:
Here is what I would do.  I would go to a archery shop and buy 2 or 3 1916s.  I would order the field point test kit from 3 rivers and visit OL adcocks website and learn how to bareshaft tune and then move on to broadheads.  I stink at posting links but somebody will come a long and post it I am sure then you will be on your way buddy.  aluminum is not the only way there are carbon arrows that will work for that bow also. I wish you where closer I would have you going in no time.

http://bowmaker.net/index2.htm

That's the link you refer to. Click on it and then click on "Bow Tuning". Read it thoroughly, then reread it again. It's gospel. The final word on bareshafting.

[Mo. Huntin]

I shoot for thrills has always got my back with that website, thanks again.  I looked up that 2018 on here and a lot of guys shoot that out of 52-55 pounds.

[acadian archer]

I shoot 41lb @28 inches and I'm using 29 inch XX75 1916s with 85 grain tips. Fly straight for me.  good luck

[fxe]

FeelTheHuunt,I have a 45lb K-Mag that likes a 30in. 1916 with 125gr. point.My Draw lenght is around 28in.Hope this helps.
J.W.

[GrnMtnTradNut]

The 2018's are probally a tad stiff if they are cut short whats your draw length and arrow length? The may work out of the Kodiak Mag  cuz of how far the risers cut but I bet you will have to load them up in the front try bare shafting with 175's, 200's and 250"s till they hit down the middle. The heavy heads and FOC that gus in terad including myself use is for better penetration and arrow flight. I tend t shoot arrows a bit over spined so I can load um up heavy in the front. I shoot a 2117 at 32.5" with a 200gr. head in bows ranging from 52 to 60lbs at my draw length and they do not stop cause they hit a critter or bone the zip through and and break shoulders if they have to on the way out. I do think though a 2016 shaft would have been a better choice then the 2018 IMHO with 150 to 200 up front. Chris

[khardrunner]

Feelthehunt...

About where in PA are you located? I might be able to help explain some of this stuff to you if you are close enough...assuming you need the help. You can PM me if you want.

[Romans3]

Feelthehunt, i've never had alluminum arrows, but thought I'd just chime on on some theory here. It doesn't matter what shaft you choose (2018,1916, GT, AD, CX...) or how it's supposed to shoot out of your bow according to charts and tables. Those are great to help you get to the right area, but only guide lines. If you can get 2018 flying nice and straight with a sharp broadhead, then you're set. One shaft doesn't inherrently pennetrate or shoot better than another. Everyone shoots differently as well. Just get a set up, whatever it is, that flies true and go hunting.

[Mo. Huntin]

Arrow selection is probably the single most important factor in making a bow shoot the best it can. P.M. me your address and I will see if I can get a couple of 1916s to send you, they are getting tough to find anymore.  I need to find some for me anyway.  I could be wrong but if it helps you shoot better I would be more than happy to do it.  I can take that 1916 and by building out the side plate can shoot anywhere from 100 grain tip to 175 grain tip, I bet I could do more.  I bet I could get that 2018 to fly but I fear I would loose to much trajectory for the weight I would have to add to the front.  Good luck bud I am always around.

[Mike Murphey]

I don't think you will see much difference between the arowsw are 20 yards or closer...I would rather have the heavier arrow than the light one....2018's should work well at 45 lbs but what is your draw length? If it is 27" or longer you're good to go....