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Offline Toklat1

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Re: flint and steel
« Reply #20 on: August 01, 2009, 11:49:00 PM »
Awesome work Chuck. I'd love to learn how to learn knap.
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Offline Thumper Dunker

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Re: flint and steel
« Reply #21 on: August 02, 2009, 04:20:00 AM »
Verry nice.
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Offline HillbillyGadget

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Re: flint and steel
« Reply #22 on: August 02, 2009, 09:12:00 AM »
That is awesome work!
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Re: flint and steel
« Reply #23 on: August 02, 2009, 10:24:00 AM »
awesome!  really beautiful arrows. Chuck you sure do some fine work. what's the other item next to the bow that has the snake head?
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Offline Roy Steele

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Re: flint and steel
« Reply #24 on: August 02, 2009, 10:46:00 AM »
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Re: flint and steel
« Reply #25 on: August 02, 2009, 11:46:00 AM »
Thank you everyone ! these are the finest compliments anyone could recieve.

Toklat1, you should get knife river's (Woody Blackwell) knapping dvd, he's a artist with stone...or glass

paleFace, that's an atlatl I carved from Osage. I enjoy practicing that ancient art that pre-dates archery .
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Offline Gil

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Re: flint and steel
« Reply #26 on: August 02, 2009, 03:01:00 PM »
Nice atlatl too!!!
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Offline Stripstrike1

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Re: flint and steel
« Reply #27 on: August 02, 2009, 08:10:00 PM »
Thank you Charles.  Cannot wait to get them.  Sorry it took me awhile to respond but I was away on a much needed vacation with the wife.  I have alot of Chuck's arrows and they are some of the finest primitive arrows you will ever find.  They look so good and are such works of art you tend to be terrified of loosing one. I am going to finally put some of his artwork to good use and hopefully can post some results here for the Gang!
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Offline swp

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Re: flint and steel
« Reply #28 on: August 02, 2009, 08:21:00 PM »
COOL!
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Offline Dave Bulla

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Re: flint and steel
« Reply #29 on: August 03, 2009, 12:00:00 AM »
Those are beautiful!  I tried tying a point onto a cane arrow once and couldn't believe how hard it was to get it "right".  Never really did in fact....

Could you give a brief rundown of how you do it?

Also, just curious as to why you didn't fletch offset or helical?  Is it a matter of keeping things historically correct or what?
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Offline snakewood3

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Re: flint and steel
« Reply #30 on: August 03, 2009, 08:15:00 PM »
Dave,
  I use an Ace spin / spine tester and put 1 bearing block right at the nock and the other as close to the base of point as possible. It still takes time.
  My thoughts on fletching...adding offset or helical can slow down an arrow by creating drag, drag is what stabilizes the arrow, not the rotation created by it. Take a good flying arrow with a big blade up front, why do you want to slow it down by adding excess drag. Do you really need, or even want, that blade trying to twist as it penetrates ? I put large fletches on straight, this offers the arrow quick stabilization from paradox and if perhaps you have a bad release, or maybe the arrow combination isn't tuned perfectly to the bow. A big fletch will also tend to hold up and offer enough surface area to be of use when wet. I feel that the energy lost to trying to spin a big blade in flight is wasted in most cases. I would prefer to have a flater trajectory and more energy to expend on actual penetration.
 Rotation induced by a single beveled blade on impact is another matter. It seems to have proven it's worth on heavy bone and probably causes more soft tissue damage. I do think with a flint or knapped point that has basically a serrated edge that it could be detrimental and cause point failure...breakage.
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Offline Stripstrike1

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Re: flint and steel
« Reply #31 on: August 07, 2009, 11:13:00 AM »
I received the package today.  They are everything the pics show and then some.  Thank you Chuck!!  I am going to hunt with them this year and hopefully be able to post the kill pics for everyone here on Tradgang. They are almost too nice to use but how cool would it be to harvest an animal with one of them? I will have plenty of opportunities to do just that!
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Offline Steve B.

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Re: flint and steel
« Reply #32 on: August 07, 2009, 12:08:00 PM »
Umm.....wow!
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Offline NorthernCaliforniaHunter

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Re: flint and steel
« Reply #33 on: August 07, 2009, 01:42:00 PM »
That is some rediculous MOJO right there. Whoa.   :scared:
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Offline wisconsin wood butcher

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Re: flint and steel
« Reply #34 on: August 07, 2009, 09:27:00 PM »
those are the coolest
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Offline Benny Nganabbarru

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Re: flint and steel
« Reply #35 on: August 07, 2009, 09:46:00 PM »
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